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Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by chopsueyar »

webwright wrote: post #68
imgabe wrote: post #50

For those of you who don't think this is a big deal. Instagram is explicitly stating that they're going to sell the use of your pictures to third parties. They're also going to start showing ads in their news stream. I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard. That's not the point. What I expect they want to happen is something like this: I post a picture of me drinking a Coke to Instag…

There are tons of stock photography models who live with this risk for a bit of compensation. So they make (say) $100 to be in a photo and have a 0.01% chance of being in an ad they find objectionable. I get a free/fun app instead of $100. Instead of a .01% chance, I have a .00000001% of appearing in an objectionable ad (my photos just aren't as good as pros, and I'm just not that pretty). Add to that-- if this happe…

Models != InstagramUsers

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by shardling »

zevyoura wrote: post #127
jellicle wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Add to that-- if this happens, I certainly won't be the first one it happens to and will almost certainly have an opportunity to delete my account when I start hearing about this happening in the wild. Even if I don't delete it, the chance of my crappy photos getting found/used out of the MANY BILLIONS on instagram also seems laughably small. You don't understand the situation. When you delete your account, it won'…

Are you equally bothered by the use of "your friends like X page" on Facebook?

I know I am.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by donpark »

webwright wrote: post #68
imgabe wrote: post #50

For those of you who don't think this is a big deal. Instagram is explicitly stating that they're going to sell the use of your pictures to third parties. They're also going to start showing ads in their news stream. I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard. That's not the point. What I expect they want to happen is something like this: I post a picture of me drinking a Coke to Instag…

There are tons of stock photography models who live with this risk for a bit of compensation. So they make (say) $100 to be in a photo and have a 0.01% chance of being in an ad they find objectionable. I get a free/fun app instead of $100. Instead of a .01% chance, I have a .00000001% of appearing in an objectionable ad (my photos just aren't as good as pros, and I'm just not that pretty). Add to that-- if this happe…

I think the chance of your photo being used in an ad targetting your friends is much higher than .00000001%.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by shabble »

bjornsteffanson wrote: post #58
dfxm12 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big deal is that someone is profiting from my work without my consent and it isn't me . It's that we (the people) get slammed by DMCA violations for taking someone else's content (for private consumption). When a huge corporation takes ours (and gets paid for it), what recourse do we have? It's that these corporations can change the rules on us in the middle of the game. It's the classic bait and switch. It's tha…

Technically we _are_ giving our consent by using the service. In fact, we already agreed to the current terms, which state "We reserve the right to alter these Terms of Use at any time." It's not even a classic bait-and-switch. It's clearly stated in the contract we all signed up for. I agree that it's sort of uncool on Instagram's part, but as fellow app developers, shouldn't we also be siding with Instagram for the…

Just because you agree to a thing doesn't mean you like it. When enough people have been sufficiently pissed off about an issue, you get demonstrations, riots, and all sorts of mass protests about The State Of That Thing We Don't Want/Like.

I'd really like to see internet protests driving some actual worthwhile changes, not least because on the whole they're a lot less destructive than an actual riot[1]

As developers, instagram can do absolutely anything (legal) they like with their app, and we should totally support them in that.

As a business, they're somewhat beholden to their customers to either do things the customers want (and not hte things the customers don't want), or find a new set of customers. Otherwise, they stop being a business.

[1] except maybe CloudFlare ends up with a slightly higher bandwidth bill for the DDOS.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by clark-kent »

It depends on how instagram implements this policy, they need a policy that gives them enough flexibility to try new things and find out what will stick. It's too early to start a kill your instagram campaign. Why not wait and see how they implement this.

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by epaga »

epaga wrote: post #80
blhack wrote: post #33

My god, people, calm down. This isn't instagram trying to use your photos as stock photos. First: they're not good enough. They're snapshots taken with camera phones, they're not marketing materials. Second: that would piss off their users, and no sane company would ever do this. The thing you're seeing in their ToS is an interpretation that allows for this. Expect a statement from instagram confirming that they will…

I came here to post almost exactly this. This happens regularly with the big sites - some idiot lawyer writes an overly cautious ToS change, everyone gets up in arms about it, the site writes an apology clarifying (and probably fires the lawyer). It seems common sense to me if you just think it to the end: do you REALLY think taking a photo of me drinking Coke (against my will) would be good advertising? Or selling m…

7 hours later: told ya so... http://blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-wer...

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by Karunamon »

epaga wrote: post #80
blhack wrote: post #33

My god, people, calm down. This isn't instagram trying to use your photos as stock photos. First: they're not good enough. They're snapshots taken with camera phones, they're not marketing materials. Second: that would piss off their users, and no sane company would ever do this. The thing you're seeing in their ToS is an interpretation that allows for this. Expect a statement from instagram confirming that they will…

I came here to post almost exactly this. This happens regularly with the big sites - some idiot lawyer writes an overly cautious ToS change, everyone gets up in arms about it, the site writes an apology clarifying (and probably fires the lawyer). It seems common sense to me if you just think it to the end: do you REALLY think taking a photo of me drinking Coke (against my will) would be good advertising? Or selling m…

>It seems absolutely obvious to me that Instagram has no interest whatsoever in doing what people are all afraid they'll be doing

The same question is raised: Why have it in the TOS if it's not going to happen? At the very least it shows a great lack of care for the operation of their business (in which case you should think twice about using the service), at most it shows a complete disregard for their users (also in which case you should think twice about using the service).

Re: How to Download Your Instagram Photos and Kill Your Account

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Post by malandrew »

webwright wrote: post #68
imgabe wrote: post #50

For those of you who don't think this is a big deal. Instagram is explicitly stating that they're going to sell the use of your pictures to third parties. They're also going to start showing ads in their news stream. I know the pictures are of too low quality to be plastered on a billboard. That's not the point. What I expect they want to happen is something like this: I post a picture of me drinking a Coke to Instag…

There are tons of stock photography models who live with this risk for a bit of compensation. So they make (say) $100 to be in a photo and have a 0.01% chance of being in an ad they find objectionable. I get a free/fun app instead of $100. Instead of a .01% chance, I have a .00000001% of appearing in an objectionable ad (my photos just aren't as good as pros, and I'm just not that pretty). Add to that-- if this happe…

I think the more interesting thing about the ad approach described by the OP that you are commenting on is that it's not unlikely that this advertising approach if automated just ends up completely debasing the value of photo ads entirely. An ad with a gorgeous woman (or handsome guy) prominantly drinking a coke is going to be far more effective than a nobody casually drinking a coke. The chance of a random instagram photo that contains a coke in the image serving as effective advertising is minute. The coke can needs to be prominent. The person in the photo needs to be someone that the viewer envies, desires or aspires to be like. Lastly the photo needs to somehow make coke a key subject/focal point of the photo. The changes of the stars aligning to make an instagram photo serve as good advertising for a product is very unlikely versus the opposite. That means that most of the time the advertiser would be receiving shitty advertising.
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