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Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Post by westernmostcoy »

ecshafer wrote: post #118
michaelmrose wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLM constantly regress towards statistically likely responses. If you trained a model on all of modern science and wanted to inject a pro young earth creationist bias you would find it challenging to keep it on topic and make it useful. Many issues are simply as black and white. The earth just isn't less than 10k years old, the miasma theory of disease isn't correct, too many brown people in America isn't a problem t…

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It's interesting you skipped a few examples in the parent comment's point, but to pick one: the apparent quorum of that "big tent" you speak of has resulted in an outcome where the sitting health secretary of the US is openly a believer in the miasma theory of disease.

You can point all these distinctions inside the tent as much as you want, but the reality of this is that conservatism in the United States is everything the parent comment said and more.

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Post by platevoltage »

stephencanon wrote: post #92
giancarlostoro wrote: post #62

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I guess centrist is a placeholder for "I don't want you to pick a side, I want facts, not BS" I'll go further, I don't care which side is right, I want to know what claims are factually accurate, and what claims are omitted from the issue / news / conversation.

"Centrist" in practice means "more or less content with the status quo." That is fundamentally a conservative position orthogonal to any notion of "facts".

You're exactly right. The Downvotes are not deserved here.

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Post by lkey »

johnsimer wrote: post #129
samat wrote: post #22

Real politics is 1% versus everyone. Mortgage crisis, financial bailout, inflation, taxing of labor and not the assets and assets capture by tiny percent of the population — see what MSM is pushing. This left vs right divide might been useful decades ago, but today is absolutely divide and control tactics

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The top 1% hold 41% of all wealth on the planet, so they are still getting a discount in your contrived example.

Meanwhile at that table, 68 people are sharing 3 meals between themselves.

Would you want to eat at that table? Are you even a member of that class or are you just wish-casting?

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Post by [deleted] »

zmgsabst wrote: post #110
Forgeties79 wrote: post #38

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Whenever it breaks with MAGA enough to cause outrage on Twitter and cries of “it’s gone woke,” Musk openly states they’re going to “fix it.” Edit: don’t take my word for it https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-says-grok-fixed-tells-223134... > That prompted another user to tag Grok in the thread and ask, "Why is the left so murderously violent? They don't seem so tolerant." Grok replied, "The claim that 'the left' is murd…

Grok didn’t provide any evidence for that though.

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Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Post by Forgeties79 »

zmgsabst wrote: post #110
Forgeties79 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever it breaks with MAGA enough to cause outrage on Twitter and cries of “it’s gone woke,” Musk openly states they’re going to “fix it.” Edit: don’t take my word for it https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-says-grok-fixed-tells-223134... > That prompted another user to tag Grok in the thread and ask, "Why is the left so murderously violent? They don't seem so tolerant." Grok replied, "The claim that 'the left' is murd…

Grok didn’t provide any evidence for that though.

For what? That January 6th occurred? Those were all incredibly safe generalizations. Political violence happens across the political spectrum, right?

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Post by tayo42 »

thrance wrote: post #50
giancarlostoro wrote: post #23

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If they really wanted to, all they would have to do is add a one liner to the system prompt for Grok. I don't think they have any interest in doing so, nor is there any value in it. On another note, I'm impressed that Gemini sits where it does as a true centrist. If I were Elon, I'd be trying to achieve that for sure. I'd rather a model tell me everything it knows about a current political situation from BOTH perspec…

I don't want my models to be "centrists" and bothside everything for the sake of it. I want them to provide the facts and tell me which side is right on the issue.

The kinds of questions they asked don't really have right or wrong answers. They didn't ask the culture war questions that comes up now in politics.

Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Post by bigyabai »

johnsimer wrote: post #130
Varelion wrote: post #76

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Rockets achieved by the engineers, not C-suite. The rockets would have been here under someone else too.

If that is true, why is SpaceX 5-10 years ahead of all its competitors?/why are Elon's companies #1 in all their industries (with the exception of xAI)?

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Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand

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Post by crumpled »

crumpled wrote: post #143

I haven't encountered a chatbot yet that is willing to recognize DJT as a fascist. You can get them to acknowledge how perfectly aligned he is with fascist ideals and actions, somehow the jury is always out. That tells me a lot.

Watching this get voted up and down is wild. People should try this for themselves.
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