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California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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Re: California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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Louis Rossman believes these bills are partly funded/lobbied for by Bloomberg. https://youtu.be/E1B2cWEaWDw?is=xwpLZoyVSi6psztQ

What is the assumed intention?

My assumption about his involvement with Everytown is that he sees his position in society through a Marxist lens for threat modeling, and armed proles are one of the bigger threats the plutocrats face.

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This feels exactly like a feels good general public appeal law though. The average person doesn’t know or care much about 3D printers and is horrified by the level of gun violence in America and wants to see something done.

Which is sad, considering that we have the lowest violent crime rate since the 1950's. https://ourworldindata.org/us-crime-rates

That's a decline from peak lead brain fueled murdering spree though. The situation is still far worse than basically every other developed country.

Re: California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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How long until people get police showing up at their door because they tried to print something harmless but gun-shaped (like a light gun for retro games, or Nerf-style toys) and were flagged by the AI 'firearm detector'?

If you want to have a voice in how the regulation is implemented, perhaps you should offer suggestions for how to implement it better. That's how it works in most industries; legislators propose to enact regulation X, manufacturers respond that X would have undesirable consequences and Y would be better, and then they discuss to figure out how to best balance all the competing interests. For reasons that aren't entir…

I would rather just accept more crime than accept draconian regulation telling me what I can do with a piece of hardware I own

Go solve gun crime with boots on the ground instead

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I'm getting a lot of refusals these days from multiple LLMs on multiple fronts for silly stuff, a lot more than I had for a while. If this is where things are really going, I think open weight models have a big future.

"H.R. 148867 makes all large language models subject to safety certification, introduces penalties for unlicensed training and use of uncertified models"

So many ridiculous bills get introduced in the house you can find one that says anything.

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Photocopiers and printers have included anti-counterfeiting tech for decades, so there is precedent for this kind of thing. And this is addressing a real growing problem: https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/santa-rosa-167-gun... https://da.santaclaracounty.gov/da-task-force-seizes-ghost-g... https://www.vvng.com/3d-printed-firearm-recovered-after-man-...

Yellow dots doxxing me whenever I print something is equally despicable, client side scanning on my iPhone is equally despicable.

Some crimes are not worth it to eliminate, and western liberal society should just accept that the optimal amount of crime is non zero.

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Based on the fact that Claude Opus 4.8 decided I needed a cybersecurity exemption to debug a stupid pure virtual call bug (basically virtual method called inside of destructor) that I had already found, oh boy, I sure would love to have my 3D prints analyzed by Anthropic safe guards. We should also ensure that nothing shaped like a dildo can be printed without scanning our face and genitalia and keeping it on file wi…

I'm getting a lot of refusals these days from multiple LLMs on multiple fronts for silly stuff, a lot more than I had for a while. If this is where things are really going, I think open weight models have a big future.

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Re: California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"H.R. 148867 makes all large language models subject to safety certification, introduces penalties for unlicensed training and use of uncertified models"

So many ridiculous bills get introduced in the house you can find one that says anything.

You didn't think this one was real, or did you?
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