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California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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Re: California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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Post by mc32 »

umvi wrote: post #28

> The required technology is not possible - 3D printers read code, not intent; they cannot tell what a shape is for. "Anthropic announces Project Disarm, a new model designed for 3d printer manufacturers to quickly infer whether the intent of an stl file is a weapon. The printer first submits the job to the cloud, and only after it's approved will it print." Not that I want this future, just that I can imagine it.

You missed the step where a DMV-clone of a state bureaucracy reviews the LLMs output before nixing the request a few weeks after the LLMs result.

Re: California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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Post by calgoo »

Legend2440 wrote: post #8
LinuxAmbulance wrote: post #2

What are the odds of this passing successfully? A grim day for 3D printing if so.

The California legislature has a history of passing stupid stuff that later gets vetoed by Newsom. They tried to ban self-driving trucks last year.

That does not sound stupid, but safe? I giant truck that has no chance of stopping, controlled by a computer? Just build railways and then there are no issues, no fancy AI to control them.

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Post by jchw »

umvi wrote: post #28

> The required technology is not possible - 3D printers read code, not intent; they cannot tell what a shape is for. "Anthropic announces Project Disarm, a new model designed for 3d printer manufacturers to quickly infer whether the intent of an stl file is a weapon. The printer first submits the job to the cloud, and only after it's approved will it print." Not that I want this future, just that I can imagine it.

Based on the fact that Claude Opus 4.8 decided I needed a cybersecurity exemption to debug a stupid pure virtual call bug (basically virtual method called inside of destructor) that I had already found, oh boy, I sure would love to have my 3D prints analyzed by Anthropic safe guards. We should also ensure that nothing shaped like a dildo can be printed without scanning our face and genitalia and keeping it on file with Persona while we're at it.

I'm not mad at you for suggesting this, you're right, I'm just generally aimlessly angry and ready for this world to burn.

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Post by philipkglass »

smt88 wrote: post #13
monax wrote: post #11

Next they will ban hardware store ? Because you could make a weapon with that pipe

For a long time, you couldn’t buy “strike anywhere” matches because they could be used in producing meth.

It's the striker strip that can be used in producing meth. The strip contains red phosphorus. Strike anywhere matches are the only kind that don't need a special strip. The strike anywhere kind were probably restricted due to their sensitivity to shock and friction which makes them more useful and more dangerous than safety matches.

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Post by cortesoft »

calgoo wrote: post #33
Legend2440 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The California legislature has a history of passing stupid stuff that later gets vetoed by Newsom. They tried to ban self-driving trucks last year.

That does not sound stupid, but safe? I giant truck that has no chance of stopping, controlled by a computer? Just build railways and then there are no issues, no fancy AI to control them.

A giant truck that has no chance of stopping, controlled by a human is even more dangerous, but we don't outlaw those.

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Post by gpm »

xienze wrote: post #25
dgellow wrote: post #6

If that becomes current law I don’t want to ever hear about Europe being over-regulated compared to the US…

Well that's one state, and the one that fancies itself as the most European in spirit, at that.

It's 1/10th the US population though, and probably 1/2 the population of US 3d printing nerds.

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Post by caturopath »

jchw wrote: post #34
umvi wrote: post #28

> The required technology is not possible - 3D printers read code, not intent; they cannot tell what a shape is for. "Anthropic announces Project Disarm, a new model designed for 3d printer manufacturers to quickly infer whether the intent of an stl file is a weapon. The printer first submits the job to the cloud, and only after it's approved will it print." Not that I want this future, just that I can imagine it.

Based on the fact that Claude Opus 4.8 decided I needed a cybersecurity exemption to debug a stupid pure virtual call bug (basically virtual method called inside of destructor) that I had already found, oh boy, I sure would love to have my 3D prints analyzed by Anthropic safe guards. We should also ensure that nothing shaped like a dildo can be printed without scanning our face and genitalia and keeping it on file wi…

I'm getting a lot of refusals these days from multiple LLMs on multiple fronts for silly stuff, a lot more than I had for a while. If this is where things are really going, I think open weight models have a big future.
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