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Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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joe_mamba wrote: post #60
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. YES, you can do GPO redirect desktop etc to network drive but needs a VPN and sync is also slow. OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. >So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access files that are in my documents folder, pictu…

>And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. [...] OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. In my previous job there was an app(by Dell EMC I think) that would run every day at lunch and backup all your user document folders to some company network drive. You could then view all your backup files in the webUI. So net…

Some jank 3rd party app is never preferred over a native MS solution.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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wartywhoa23 wrote: post #85
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #51

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You are conflating private OneDrive with enterprise Office 365 Sharepoint based solution. Also that came out 10-13 years ago... way before AI. Why are people on this site such midwits?

> Also that came out 10-13 years ago... way before AI. Do you think AI training and preceding data vacuuming started yesterday? Was there no "Big Data" hype immediately before LLMs took off? > Why are people on this site such midwits? Address this question to a mirror.

I get the irony lmao

But Big Data was just a large SQL set for companies internally. Usually. The sinister part would be adverts and tracking I guess if that is what you are fishing for.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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expedition32 wrote: post #105
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #53

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Standard sub gives 1TB per user. Laptop drives are still 256 or 512GB in office work. No real need to pay for "higher subs"

It's about pushing subs in the first place. Normal people don't need it they can save stuff to their HD/SSD like they've been doing for the last 30 years. But here comes Microsoft enabling OneDrive by default. How many tech illiterate folks have been pushed into paying for 365? Fuck MS.

I am talking about companies to be precise.

Office 365 was and is a godsend compare to running Exchange and massive SANs on-prem...

They knew this so Office 365 at first was literally only email at first so people could stop having OWA on prem open to the web.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by rcxdude »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #50
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. YES, you can do GPO redirect desktop etc to network drive but needs a VPN and sync is also slow. OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. >So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access files that are in my documents folder, pictu…

You could use an actual backup solution, OneDrive is not that.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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vel0city wrote: post #140
knollimar wrote: post #94

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Id rather the people being irresponsible with their files lose them than me randomly. My IT even set up my downloads folder to sync... my job involves downloading 4gb files and throwing them away after I run a script on them frequently...

That sounds more like an issue with your relationship with your IT guy than OneDrive as a product. Not necessarily blaming you for the relationship fault, but someone forcing using the software improperly isn't really a failure of the software.

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Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by rcxdude »

cheschire wrote: post #32
bilekas wrote: post #24

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Data loss and storage is always a challenge, that's why companies will have network drives, network storage that's not strongly coupled with your account acess. OneDrive doesn't solve the problem in a clean way. It adds an extra layer of brittleness.

Network storage does not handle the online/offline switching as transparently as OneDrive (or other cloud storage). For large enterprises that old architecture you refer to means long lead times on network and storage outage notifications, and huge fallout if an outage window is blown. And if the building network goes down, or if your storage servers are located off site because you’re too big for one building and th…

onedrive doesn't really handle online/offline switching well. Unless you configure it carefully, it will generally not keep stuff local and so things will break without an internet connection.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by bilekas »

al_borland wrote: post #65
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with git, because this is going on in the background and they don’t realize it. They’ll change branches, then OneDrive sees files are missing, so it starts pulling them back down. It makes a mess. Any new hire we get, we need to make sure to explicitly tell them not to keep their code in a folder managed by OneDrive, but they never listen. They speak up about a month later, compl…

> I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with git, because this is going on in the background and they don’t realize it.

Having git tied to a one drive folder is diabolical. We might aswell move back to SVN at that stage.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by lencastre »

f4stjack wrote: post #72
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

The best thing you can do with an enterprise Onedrive is having long long file and folder names. The moment it exceeds 255 characters, the software application dies. I am ready to hear easier fixes but so far this worked: - Rename the offending folder from the web - Unlink the folder from the user's machine - Delete the existing onedrive folder - Relink and resync The best part is, the web side of onedrive has practi…

so many times,… I’ve lost count

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by olyjohn »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #141
joe_mamba wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. [...] OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. In my previous job there was an app(by Dell EMC I think) that would run every day at lunch and backup all your user document folders to some company network drive. You could then view all your backup files in the webUI. So net…

Some jank 3rd party app is never preferred over a native MS solution.

Lol. OneDrive is the most jank solution there is.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by kg »

0x1d7 wrote: post #84
Lucasoato wrote: post #69

If you start uploading data to your cloud without my clear consent, I already see a very big problem with your product. If you even substitute the directories in my computer (a standard that was untouched for the last 20 years) in a way to force my stuff into your cloud, then there’s a much bigger problem. Managers who approved this should be thrown out of the company because this is clearly how NOT to make a product…

What does this have to do with the article you're responding to which is about OneDrive for Business? More HN comments, less reddit comments, please.

The behavior described is what OneDrive does
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