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Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by WickedSmoke »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #89
tclancy wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I tend to agree with the line of thinking in this thread that the ethos of open source (and the web writ large) have been taken advantage of by capitalism, I can't quite see this: things belong to a time and place in one's life. The creator feels like his time with this project is at an end, but why would that be an impediment to someone who needs a package like this stepping up and maintaining it? Better to do…

> have been taken advantage of by capitalism “And many programmers, they say to me, “The people who hire programmers demand this, this and this. If I don't do those things, I'll starve.” It's literally the word they use. Well, you know, as a waiter, you're not going to starve. So, really, they're in no danger.” - Richard Stallman in 2001 admitting his ideology can’t explain how a programmer can eat In my opinion, tho…

Communism occurs in part whenever a need is met or an economic decision is made without using value tokens. Direct access to resources without money happens every day (e.g. anyone using Linux rather than a proprietary OS, or exercising in a public park rather than a for-profit gym). The only thing keeping other products & services hoarded behind paywalls is devotion to capitalist ideology. It literally is a problem of capitalism. The structure of the world outside of people's brains has nothing to do with it.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by lelanthran »

freakynit wrote: post #34
2ndorderthought wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wish projects like this didn't fall through the cracks and continued to be funded. The struggles of OSS are too real.

True.. I truly wish wish we had better open-source license and more open-source projects adopt it.. Tiered pricing license... tiering based upon annual company revenues... should start super low for small companies (free for individuals), and jump to thousands of dollars per year for 10+ milion revenue companies. I understand that this might not fully be in the spirit of open-source, but, what's happening currently i…

> Tiered pricing license... tiering based upon annual company revenues... should start super low for small companies (free for individuals), and jump to thousands of dollars per year for 10+ milion revenue companies.

Too complicated. Make it GPL (not MIT) and offer dual licensing.

Those corps that need it but are GPL-phobic can have a different license, and can pay for it.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by gsich »

fsckboy wrote: post #117
drcongo wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That text is right there in the link, we don't need to read it twice.

> "we don't need to read it" [here] many people here don't read the articles, and that's not going to change. (on today's internet, jumping from the site you want to be on to a site with unknown UX patterns is fraught) but people here do read the comments, so having important details from the articles in comments here improves the quality of comments here, at least if you value staying on topic.

>fraught

dumb "journalists" especially have this backwards mindset.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by nijave »

colesantiago wrote: post #9

> Since Crunchy Data was sold, I have been maintaining pgBackRest and looking for a position that would allow me to continue the work, but so far I have not been successful. Likewise, my efforts to secure sponsorship have also fallen far short of what I need to make the project viable. So this was the problem, I thought Snowflake would pick up the sponsorship of this project but since it is a competing database it do…

Postgres doesn't compete with Snowflake. Snowflake recently announced a Postgres DBaaS offering that integrates with Snowflake (actually has competitive pricing with AWS RDS Postgres)

They're two non competing verticals. It's a shame Snowflake decided to shrink Crunchy Data's community presence.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by Chris2048 »

spockz wrote: post #104
topham wrote: post #45

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Sigh. Bane of my existence is any service which does this. My org theoretically makes hundreds of millions, unfortunately none of that money is ours. So I get forced into a procurement process for anything that costs more than (ridiculously small limit), and get stuck using the worst in class because it's cheaper.

If none of the money is yours it means it is not your profit. A license expressed in terms of profit instead of revenue would be suitable for you. I thought a while back there were some products that had dual licenses, a fairly open license for private use, use in small companies, but requiring purchase and/or contribution back when used in something like a cloud providers SaaS. I like open source, but I also can und…

> If none of the money is yours it means it is not your profit

Maybe they mean their org makes a lot of money the money for their parent corp, but little of that ( goes into / is reflected in ) their own orgs budget?

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by 3form »

fsckboy wrote: post #117
drcongo wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That text is right there in the link, we don't need to read it twice.

> "we don't need to read it" [here] many people here don't read the articles, and that's not going to change. (on today's internet, jumping from the site you want to be on to a site with unknown UX patterns is fraught) but people here do read the comments, so having important details from the articles in comments here improves the quality of comments here, at least if you value staying on topic.

I think mostly the point is that it inadvertently implies that the message adds something new. A note that the same thing was posted on LinkedIn would help the ones tho did read the linked content know right away it's the same. I managed to just move on, but I did had a knee-jerk moment of "what if I'm missing something?" - I suppose for some people it's more difficult.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by nijave »

zie wrote: post #137
afgrant wrote: post #121

Does Postgres no have online backup built in? All of the other major DBMSes do.

See the documentation: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/backup.html all of these various 3rd party backup tools use these things. Mostly it's QOL stuff that you get from a 3rd party tool. We use barman, very happily: https://pgbarman.org/

Hopefully barman has some longevity being under EDB assuming some hyperscaler doesn't gobble them up
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