Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

github.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

101–110 of 245 posts

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#101

Post by leoc »

freedomben wrote: post #97
Latty wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it reads as being worried that someone malicious could step in and use the project's name to do harm. If you don't have someone within the project with trust built ready-to-go, establishing that trust enough to hand over the project is a big task.

I totally agree, that is a huge risk. But what if someone from the postgres team decided to step up and maintain it? I'm not saying that's likely, but it is possible for a very popular tool like this. With the way the project exited now, that would not at all be an option. Obviously if postgres themselves decided to do it, they wouldn't need the previous credibility so this isn't the best example

The Apache Foundation used to step in in this kind of situation, didn't it? Thugh maybe pgbackrest isn't quite big and official enough to be the kind of software which Apache takes on, and one certainly hears (increasing?) grumbles about Apache's stewardship.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#102

Post by stronglikedan »

drcongo wrote: post #92
radimm wrote: post #76

This is the message the author posted on LinkedIn: After a lot of thought, I have decided to stop working on pgBackRest. I did not come to this decision lightly. pgBackRest has been my passion project for the last thirteen years, and I was fortunate to have corporate sponsorship for much of this time, but there were also many late nights and weekends as I worked to make pgBackRest the project it is today, aided by nu…

That text is right there in the link, we don't need to read it twice.

Why did you read it twice if you didn't need to? Seems unnecessary. I only read it once and just ignored it on subsequent encounters.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#103

Post by Vordimous »

radimm wrote: post #76

This is the message the author posted on LinkedIn: After a lot of thought, I have decided to stop working on pgBackRest. I did not come to this decision lightly. pgBackRest has been my passion project for the last thirteen years, and I was fortunate to have corporate sponsorship for much of this time, but there were also many late nights and weekends as I worked to make pgBackRest the project it is today, aided by nu…

Thank you for adding this here.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#104

Post by spockz »

topham wrote: post #45
freakynit wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True.. I truly wish wish we had better open-source license and more open-source projects adopt it.. Tiered pricing license... tiering based upon annual company revenues... should start super low for small companies (free for individuals), and jump to thousands of dollars per year for 10+ milion revenue companies. I understand that this might not fully be in the spirit of open-source, but, what's happening currently i…

Sigh. Bane of my existence is any service which does this. My org theoretically makes hundreds of millions, unfortunately none of that money is ours. So I get forced into a procurement process for anything that costs more than (ridiculously small limit), and get stuck using the worst in class because it's cheaper.

If none of the money is yours it means it is not your profit. A license expressed in terms of profit instead of revenue would be suitable for you.

I thought a while back there were some products that had dual licenses, a fairly open license for private use, use in small companies, but requiring purchase and/or contribution back when used in something like a cloud providers SaaS.

I like open source, but I also can understand the nagging feeling when your (and your contributors work) is used for pure corporate greed.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#105

Post by colesantiago »

voidmain0001 wrote: post #77
colesantiago wrote: post #9

> Since Crunchy Data was sold, I have been maintaining pgBackRest and looking for a position that would allow me to continue the work, but so far I have not been successful. Likewise, my efforts to secure sponsorship have also fallen far short of what I need to make the project viable. So this was the problem, I thought Snowflake would pick up the sponsorship of this project but since it is a competing database it do…

Even with sponsorship, it's not always appreciated such as Vercel backing Svelte, Vue, etc. https://www.reddit.com/r/reactjs/comments/1g4lu5p/am_i_seein...

The responses in there are dumb and childish.

I doubt that they have sponsored an OSS project or made it sustainable.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#107

Post by spockz »

j1elo wrote: post #44

Open Source has worked fine here. The author doesn't find financial support for the work, so they just want to change winds and that's a perfectly fine path forward. If this is really much more than a personal project "for fun, on my leisure time", and it became an actually serious product -level project that provides good value in commercial environments for people, there's clearly an opportunity for a for-profit co…

I wonder whether the author has considered taking the product to a paid level and what would be necessary for it.

Obviously, all contributors have some form of copyright, which may or may not have been waived depending on whether there was an ACL in place and jurisdiction. So he would need to get permission from the copyright holders, maybe in exchange for a percentage of the profit.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#108

Post by spockz »

aetherspawn wrote: post #78

It still works, you can just keep using it. I think that’s what the author would want. People to keep using it until it doesn’t work anymore.

And hopefully someone wants to stand up then. Not sure whether it needs to be a fork or that they can join as contributor on the repo.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#109

Post by spockz »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #96
bdcravens wrote: post #75

"so sad to see this" The source is still available. Maintaining your own copy and/or paying someone to do it is an option. While you're at it, look at all the projects you depend on that you would similarly be sad about losing, and set up those donations today.

This is the right attitude. All the "this is sad" comments make me want to ask, "How sad are you? Sad enough to donate?"

For me the sad part about the story is that someone who clearly knows what they are doing wasn’t able to find a job that would have permitted him to continue working on the project and that there were insufficient sponsors from companies.

Not the fact that he made the decision he made.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#110

Post by _flux »

freedomben wrote: post #97
Latty wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it reads as being worried that someone malicious could step in and use the project's name to do harm. If you don't have someone within the project with trust built ready-to-go, establishing that trust enough to hand over the project is a big task.

I totally agree, that is a huge risk. But what if someone from the postgres team decided to step up and maintain it? I'm not saying that's likely, but it is possible for a very popular tool like this. With the way the project exited now, that would not at all be an option. Obviously if postgres themselves decided to do it, they wouldn't need the previous credibility so this isn't the best example

If someone really wants to continue the name, they can of course ask the author; maybe they have a compelling case.
Post reply on HN