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Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by 8note »

geraneum wrote: post #84
greggoB wrote: post #44

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It (normally) has an effect on the military calculus - e.g. if the US weren't allowed to have military bases in these countries, the possibility to take such action seems less plausible.

Correct, but that's not my point. My point is whether the Gulf States can realistically dictate what the US does. Perhaps they can affect US actions, but I doubt it's that cut and dried.

the mask can be taken off at least, that the bases are there so that americans can kill the gulf state leaders in a moment's notice, rather than for any defenses.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by sumedh »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #90
andrepd wrote: post #17

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Slight tangent, but to me futuristic cities are actually places like Amsterdam, with cozy streets and bike lanes everywhere, not places like Dubai with 16-lane freeways and a quasi-slave underclass staffing the tacky malls.

A lot of people don’t like bikes. I am down for salty licorice though.

Is it because they’re used to cars from a young age?

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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VoidWarranty wrote: post #2

Not to be insensitive about the humanitarian and economic situation, but, I am curious why there are data centers in that region at all? It just seems horribly inefficient from a cooling and electricity standpoint. Not to mention water. My pessimistic assumption is that Amazon said "yes" to handouts from regional government efforts to be relevant in tech, and that those data centers dont really matter to anyone but l…

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Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by jasomill »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #26
VoidWarranty wrote: post #2

Not to be insensitive about the humanitarian and economic situation, but, I am curious why there are data centers in that region at all? It just seems horribly inefficient from a cooling and electricity standpoint. Not to mention water. My pessimistic assumption is that Amazon said "yes" to handouts from regional government efforts to be relevant in tech, and that those data centers dont really matter to anyone but l…

It's extremely efficient from an evaporative cooling perspective.

Aside from the energy cost of desalination.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by detourdog »

ceejayoz wrote: post #134
detourdog wrote: post #129

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IF there literacy rate is 94% then it makes sense that Amazon wants them as customers.

> there literacy rate Uh oh.

I never made any claims regarding my literacy.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by [deleted] »

tiew9Vii wrote: post #13
VoidWarranty wrote: post #2

Not to be insensitive about the humanitarian and economic situation, but, I am curious why there are data centers in that region at all? It just seems horribly inefficient from a cooling and electricity standpoint. Not to mention water. My pessimistic assumption is that Amazon said "yes" to handouts from regional government efforts to be relevant in tech, and that those data centers dont really matter to anyone but l…

Middle East isn’t some 3rd world. If you can imagine futuristic cities, rich Middle East countries are already living in them with all the oil wealth. They have phones, computers, digital services just like the US and Europe. Makes sense they want a data center in the region, close to them just like the US and Europe have data enters close to their users.

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Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by bryan_w »

wiml wrote: post #65
watwut wrote: post #4

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Why would water for data center be an issue there? They dont need to drink it. It was business for those contries. Just like finance, travel and wgat have you.

Water is used for cooling. You take in liquid water, release water vapor, and the phase transition takes away a lot of heat. Otherwise you need to pump that heat into dry air, which is much more difficult (energy-expensive). It's the same thing you do when you sweat.

But it's not a significant amount, compared to other uses in a city. You know this, right?

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by jasomill »

lenkite wrote: post #28
bawolff wrote: post #16

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No doubt. But it still seems like a bizarre strategy. They can't shoot the people they want so they just shoot these other randoms.

These randoms not only host U.S. bases supplying logistics for the attacks on Iran, but were are launch pads for missiles https://www.wsj.com/world/iran-war-land-missile-strikes-22ca... until Iran ensured the launch sites were destroyed "Videos verified by Storyful, which is owned by News Corp, the parent company of The Wall Street Journal, indicate that at least some of the launches came from Bahrain, the tiny kingd…

This, plus a history of conflicts between various Persian dynasties and their Arabian neighbors that predate the existence of the US by over 1,000 years.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by happymellon »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #123
tiew9Vii wrote: post #13

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Middle East isn’t some 3rd world. If you can imagine futuristic cities, rich Middle East countries are already living in them with all the oil wealth. They have phones, computers, digital services just like the US and Europe. Makes sense they want a data center in the region, close to them just like the US and Europe have data enters close to their users.

Americans seem to think the middle-east is some dystopian place where everyone is near poverty living in mudhuts, when places like Iran have a higher level of literacy than the USA, with more female college graduates. There's definitely a lot of issues that need to be addressed at a cultural and social-economical level in places like Dubai exploiting migrant workers like slaves, the UAE, etc... but America has plenty…

> places like Dubai exploiting migrant workers like slaves

Heck you can even compare like with like, and point to H1b visas.

The entire point of that program is to bring in people who you can pay below standard wages, and who will work those 12 hour days for you.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Post by eli_gottlieb »

FpUser wrote: post #71
mlinhares wrote: post #48

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Its sad that people think the "future" is all about owning stuff for yourself and not what the city can provide to its population.

Why is it said? Being independent to the degree possible is the best state for human being I think.

But buying a lot of tacky stuff isn't independence in any meaningful way. It's just choosing a lifestyle with a larger dependency surface.
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