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Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Middle East isn’t some 3rd world. If you can imagine futuristic cities, rich Middle East countries are already living in them with all the oil wealth. They have phones, computers, digital services just like the US and Europe. Makes sense they want a data center in the region, close to them just like the US and Europe have data enters close to their users.

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> but it certainly is from a culture and society perspective. Like living in the 12th century except there are also shiny glass skyscrapers.

I am surprised looking at this seemingly racist comment. Just because someone doesn't follow your tradition/culture doesn't mean they are living in the 12th century. There are people living everywhere in the world.

Dubai is in fact very developed, and there are not just camels living there - there are people, and many companies - albeit not so much primarily in the tech industry.

They do not have the tallest building in the world there worth $1.5 billion for no reason. They have tech needs like any other country and I hope that clears your confusion.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Not to be insensitive about the humanitarian and economic situation, but, I am curious why there are data centers in that region at all? It just seems horribly inefficient from a cooling and electricity standpoint. Not to mention water. My pessimistic assumption is that Amazon said "yes" to handouts from regional government efforts to be relevant in tech, and that those data centers dont really matter to anyone but l…

Data governance compliance is a huge issue for some industries. "The days can't leave the country" will drive AWSs normal customers to demand bespoke regions setup and turned on

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Middle East isn’t some 3rd world. If you can imagine futuristic cities, rich Middle East countries are already living in them with all the oil wealth. They have phones, computers, digital services just like the US and Europe. Makes sense they want a data center in the region, close to them just like the US and Europe have data enters close to their users.

Slight tangent, but to me futuristic cities are actually places like Amsterdam, with cozy streets and bike lanes everywhere, not places like Dubai with 16-lane freeways and a quasi-slave underclass staffing the tacky malls.

If you take futuristic to mean „looking like the future“, it think the second option is sadly more futuristic for some people

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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It's supposed to show to regional US allies that the American military cannot really protect them, pushing them to apply pressure to end the war in the short term, and to cool their relationship with the US and Israel in the long term. It has had some effect; the emirates are desperate to find a way out of this conflict, and various figures have publicly said "the system of alliances [with the US] has worked but need…

Do Americans do what they want because they are “allowed” by gulf states?

It (normally) has an effect on the military calculus - e.g. if the US weren't allowed to have military bases in these countries, the possibility to take such action seems less plausible.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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Slight tangent, but to me futuristic cities are actually places like Amsterdam, with cozy streets and bike lanes everywhere, not places like Dubai with 16-lane freeways and a quasi-slave underclass staffing the tacky malls.

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Oil is required to get around cities like Austin, not to get around cities like Amsterdam

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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No we're talking specifically about how women are treated and the horrible executions for doing various things that "offend God".

As opposed to the West’s genocide of millions upon millions of natives across their colonial projects? How about the millions killed as a result (directly or indirectly) of wars of aggression in the global south? Or perhaps the ongoing & unrelenting support by the West of genocide in Gaza?

Or are we not allowed to compare these things because of who the perpetrators are?

And, in the case of colonial crimes, don’t tell me to “let bygones be bygones” until apologies have been made and reparations disbursed.

In the meantime, the West is complicit and can instead direct their holier than thou attitude and patronizing lectures inwards.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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So can Amazon file a claim with the Us government for compensation? Does their insurance cover this? Or do they just eat the loss?

I am anything but a legal expert, but my guess would be that this falls under the aspects of force majeure. Which doesn't mean, that in a couple of years they try to take this to court.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Middle East isn’t some 3rd world. If you can imagine futuristic cities, rich Middle East countries are already living in them with all the oil wealth. They have phones, computers, digital services just like the US and Europe. Makes sense they want a data center in the region, close to them just like the US and Europe have data enters close to their users.

Slight tangent, but to me futuristic cities are actually places like Amsterdam, with cozy streets and bike lanes everywhere, not places like Dubai with 16-lane freeways and a quasi-slave underclass staffing the tacky malls.

Its sad that people think the "future" is all about owning stuff for yourself and not what the city can provide to its population.

Re: Iranian missile blitz takes down AWS data centers in Bahrain and Dubai

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's supposed to show to regional US allies that the American military cannot really protect them, pushing them to apply pressure to end the war in the short term, and to cool their relationship with the US and Israel in the long term. It has had some effect; the emirates are desperate to find a way out of this conflict, and various figures have publicly said "the system of alliances [with the US] has worked but need…

Do Americans do what they want because they are “allowed” by gulf states?

You need to think that all the way through. The answer is obviously yes. Yemen is a perfect example. Iran is obviously as well. Afghanistan another great case. It is certainly possible to resist US pressure. Iran is asking the gulf countries to do that. Imagine how much better they would all be able to resist the US together as well, better than each alone.
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