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Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by account42 »

antonvs wrote: post #134
ryandrake wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, this is more like vandalizing Wikipedia than spoofing or interfering with safety-critical systems. It's juvenile, but probably not crashing any planes. It'll get reverted, and then presumably the adsb exchange website will tighten up their security.

> It's juvenile Juvenile times call for juvenile measures. In case you haven’t noticed, the US is being run by a bunch of arrested development high school bullies. Juvenile is one of the only languages they understand.

If anything it juvenile it's "the other guy/team/party did it first".

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by expedition32 »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #137
antonvs wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's juvenile Juvenile times call for juvenile measures. In case you haven’t noticed, the US is being run by a bunch of arrested development high school bullies. Juvenile is one of the only languages they understand.

And is Vance or Trump watching Flightradar24 in their free time? And if they did, would they even get mad at this and not find it funny? And if they did get mad at it, would they do anything at all? If they did something, would it be anything desirable or just trying to retaliate at whoever drew this?

Trump is a narcist and it is known that he spends too much time on social media- and golf.

Vance however is the real deal. May god/science help us all if Trump ever has his long overdue stroke.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by PunchyHamster »

ryandrake wrote: post #100
paulirish wrote: post #63

This was not spoofed at the ADS-B layer. It was just spoofed to adsb exchange. (While typically a feeder contributes to multiple sites, this one didn't.) eg: - https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zo... - https://adsb.lol/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zoom=14... Relevant discussion on r/adsb: https://www.reddit.com/r/ADSB/comments/1qp3q9n/interesting/ where they note it's also absent on FR2…

Yea, this is more like vandalizing Wikipedia than spoofing or interfering with safety-critical systems. It's juvenile, but probably not crashing any planes. It'll get reverted, and then presumably the adsb exchange website will tighten up their security.

There is no security within ADS-B. All you need is directional antenna pointing at receiver (if you just want to fuck with website, not cause mass panic in the nearest airport tower), there is no encryption or other form of authentication in the messages.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by PunchyHamster »

consumer451 wrote: post #116
paulirish wrote: post #63

This was not spoofed at the ADS-B layer. It was just spoofed to adsb exchange. (While typically a feeder contributes to multiple sites, this one didn't.) eg: - https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zo... - https://adsb.lol/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zoom=14... Relevant discussion on r/adsb: https://www.reddit.com/r/ADSB/comments/1qp3q9n/interesting/ where they note it's also absent on FR2…

I had also posted this story earlier, then deleted it once I learned that. However, I did find this interesting doc about real ADS-B spoofing, which does not appear to be very easy: https://www.icao.int/sites/default/files/APAC/Meetings/2025/...

That just says "you need to go outside, and own an SDR". It's very easy, there is no encryption nor authentication in the system

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Post by abustamam »

mindslight wrote: post #122
KnuthIsGod wrote: post #104

How long before domestic terrorism charges are laid ? Everthing seems to be domestic terrorism in the US these days.

Domestic terrorism is now an official policy goal of the "US" government, so yes, there is a lot of it.

Easy to justify the murder of your political opponents by calling them domestic terrorists.

What's almost more frightening is how many people actually buy it.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by Am4TIfIsER0ppos »

Fnoord wrote: post #96
deevus wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a few chuckles reading that. Thanks.

Can you explain what is funny about it? I genuinely don't understand.

Are funny faces funny? Are edited images funny? Are edited funny faces funny? Perhaps it just isn't your sort of humor.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by jjwiseman »

Nextgrid wrote: post #126
mschuster91 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> spoofed locations that are physically impossible to receive by said receiver? Wait until you hear about Sporadic-E or Aurora. RF is a weird place full of natural phenomena making the impossible very possible.

But even if that was the case, is there any value for a receiver to be receiving those? Surely those messages would be picked up by a receiver closer to the transmitter anyway. I think the value in spoofing rejection is greater than the probability of a transmission reflecting from beyond the horizon and not being already being picked up by a local receiver.

These receivers mostly don’t have gps and it’s very common for people to put in the wrong coordinates.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by ryandrake »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #143
ryandrake wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, this is more like vandalizing Wikipedia than spoofing or interfering with safety-critical systems. It's juvenile, but probably not crashing any planes. It'll get reverted, and then presumably the adsb exchange website will tighten up their security.

There is no security within ADS-B. All you need is directional antenna pointing at receiver (if you just want to fuck with website, not cause mass panic in the nearest airport tower), there is no encryption or other form of authentication in the messages.

The security in question is the ADS-B exchange's web site's security, not the security of the ADS-B system. It's unlikely this vandal even has an antenna.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by esseph »

walletdrainer wrote: post #124
esseph wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pilots and nerds that watch airplane traffic Viewable on FlightRadar24, etc

Pilots would tend to not see this, neither would people using FlightRadar24

There are now multiple ones, and they are spreading through more than just ADSBExchange for this attempt.

It is on Airplanes.live ADSB,FI,and TheAirTraffic.com. Isn't on adsb.lol or FlightRadar24.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfdf8

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Post by consumer451 »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #144
consumer451 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had also posted this story earlier, then deleted it once I learned that. However, I did find this interesting doc about real ADS-B spoofing, which does not appear to be very easy: https://www.icao.int/sites/default/files/APAC/Meetings/2025/...

That just says "you need to go outside, and own an SDR". It's very easy, there is no encryption nor authentication in the system

Man, I wrote that comment at the end of a 14hr work day. The crazy thing is that I had seen that SDR slide when I first looked at this. Hours later, when I posted the comment, I reviewed it again and completely hallucinated the SDR slide away.

I need to check all the work I did towards the end of yesterday. Valuable lesson. Thanks.

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