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Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#132

Isn't this actually illegal?

It’s not “illegal broadcast which engages the FAA and FCC to hunt you down” illegal, but that doesn’t exclude other prosecutions.

Other persecutions for what? Sending crap data to an API is not a crime.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#133

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> an API that should probably be better secured. I think the API is secured? The entire premise is that a volunteer creates an account and uploads ADS-B telemetry. Detecting falsified data is a separate matter.

Sounds like authentication is working great, but their authorization design may be flawed.

How is it flawed? That is the nature of crowdsourcing.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#134

This was not spoofed at the ADS-B layer. It was just spoofed to adsb exchange. (While typically a feeder contributes to multiple sites, this one didn't.) eg: - https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zo... - https://adsb.lol/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zoom=14... Relevant discussion on r/adsb: https://www.reddit.com/r/ADSB/comments/1qp3q9n/interesting/ where they note it's also absent on FR2…

Yea, this is more like vandalizing Wikipedia than spoofing or interfering with safety-critical systems. It's juvenile, but probably not crashing any planes. It'll get reverted, and then presumably the adsb exchange website will tighten up their security.

> It's juvenile

Juvenile times call for juvenile measures. In case you haven’t noticed, the US is being run by a bunch of arrested development high school bullies. Juvenile is one of the only languages they understand.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#135

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I really recommend you read Bob Woodward's four most recent books, starting with Fear [¹] . They give us a fascinating look into Trump's mind, and we get frank discussions from Trump and the people around him about how he not only idolizes strong men like Putin and Kim, but wishes he could be more like them if it weren't for the limits on his power and weak people around him (i.e. more feared/respected by his subordi…

That word works two ways: it shows that Trump would like to be feared, but he's not, it also shows that he's probably very scared, especially of the people he's sucking up to.

I will show you fear in a handful of dust

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, this is more like vandalizing Wikipedia than spoofing or interfering with safety-critical systems. It's juvenile, but probably not crashing any planes. It'll get reverted, and then presumably the adsb exchange website will tighten up their security.

> It's juvenile Juvenile times call for juvenile measures. In case you haven’t noticed, the US is being run by a bunch of arrested development high school bullies. Juvenile is one of the only languages they understand.

+N. If I could, I would give you multiple upvotes.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, this is more like vandalizing Wikipedia than spoofing or interfering with safety-critical systems. It's juvenile, but probably not crashing any planes. It'll get reverted, and then presumably the adsb exchange website will tighten up their security.

> It's juvenile Juvenile times call for juvenile measures. In case you haven’t noticed, the US is being run by a bunch of arrested development high school bullies. Juvenile is one of the only languages they understand.

And is Vance or Trump watching Flightradar24 in their free time? And if they did, would they even get mad at this and not find it funny? And if they did get mad at it, would they do anything at all? If they did something, would it be anything desirable or just trying to retaliate at whoever drew this?

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#138
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Please explain the tech.

ADS-B is packet data telemetry broadcast unencrypted and unauthenticated by aircraft on 1090MHz. Anyone can receive it, and many do. FlightRadar and others have networks of people with receivers that forward all received packets to central servers. The aircraft self-report location, heading, altitude, etc, so anyone can transmit packets making ghost planes. I am somewhat surprised nobody has stashed an ADS-B spoofer…

There was this proof of concept in 2012: https://youtu.be/CXv1j3GbgLk?t=2483

(IIUC they did not actually transmit data, just fed it directly into an ADS-B receiver, but transmitting would've been trivial at this point)

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#139

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> It's juvenile Juvenile times call for juvenile measures. In case you haven’t noticed, the US is being run by a bunch of arrested development high school bullies. Juvenile is one of the only languages they understand.

And is Vance or Trump watching Flightradar24 in their free time? And if they did, would they even get mad at this and not find it funny? And if they did get mad at it, would they do anything at all? If they did something, would it be anything desirable or just trying to retaliate at whoever drew this?

Much like the Biden team wisely embraced the Dark Brandon meme. To quote the ancient stoic wisdom imparted to Punxsutawney Phil, "don't drive angry."

https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1756888470599967000

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#140

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There are non-radar towers that don't have scopes. They may have a traffic display, or maybe not. They might choose to use a public ADS-B aggregator site because it gives them situational awareness, but they don't use it to provide radar services to aircraft. That's my understanding from listening to a lot podcast episodes with air traffic controllers, anyway. I think it's an unofficial, non-FAA approved kind of thin…

> They might choose to use a public ADS-B aggregator site because it gives them situational awareness I do not understand what the upside is, aside from saving a tiny amount of effort and cost -- they could get the same data with more reliability by just running their own ADS-B receiver, without having a dependency on a third-party.

> they could get the same data

They could get uncensored data too - you dont want billionaires jets crashing into other planes because they didnt want to be tracked.

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