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Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by e40 »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #67
ruralfam wrote: post #31

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Not just the ads. They are likely tracking your location, and drive events. These can be sold to your insurance company who may adjust your rates, or even drop you if they consider your driving patterns to be risky. When we got our Ford Maverick, first thing I did was disable this. Kudos to Ford for making this easy. Downside is that we got a recall notice about the software for the backup camera needing an update. I…

>They are likely tracking your location, and drive events I can't speak to whether or whither they sell the data, but they are 100% tracking your location and vehicle events

What would be the point of collecting the data and then doing nothing with it??

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Post by hydrogen7800 »

subaripped wrote: post #129
dotancohen wrote: post #97

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Interpretation The First: One does not need to subscribe to enjoy this functionality. Interpretation The Second: These vehicles are maintained by a corporation that is both greedy and incompetent.

I took my wife's 2020 Crosstrek in for service a couple of years ago. The service writer told me (and documented) that the car needed rear pads when I came to pick it up. That's a little weird, I thought. I took it to a tire place for snows two weeks later. They inspect that shit for the upsell while the wheels are off anyway. Front and rear brakes: fine. Checked 'em myself. Sure enough, barely worn. That was the las…

I have this[0] in my cart waiting to pull the trigger. It's supposed to allow you to pull the power from the data communication model, while preserving the functioning of the microphone and front speakers, which are routed through the DCM.

[0]https://www.autoharnesshouse.com/69018.html

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by [deleted] »

sudonanohome wrote: post #29
whartung wrote: post #23

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To be fair, I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It was the first year of their then new model rollout for the GC. It was (as I understand it) the last of the Mercedes JGCs. I love this thing, it's a "cold dead hands" kind of car for me. Only has 120k-ish miles on it. I won't say it's my last car ever, I just have a hard time visualizing swapping it out for anything. It starts, all the buttons work, it's cosmetically 9…

So your 12 yrs old truck with only 120k miles got: - radiator replaced - water pump replaced - AC repaired (twice) - suspension rebuilt And that's considered to be a "good" truck? Good lord I'm happy we don't get such garbage sold here in Europe

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Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by [deleted] »

hluska wrote: post #44
sudonanohome wrote: post #29

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So your 12 yrs old truck with only 120k miles got: - radiator replaced - water pump replaced - AC repaired (twice) - suspension rebuilt And that's considered to be a "good" truck? Good lord I'm happy we don't get such garbage sold here in Europe

You don’t know much about cars. All the work they had done on their vehicle was typical for that model generation. Air suspensions are generally problematic because of constant wear mixed with parts issues, and A/C problems are common in that model generation. This is all normal stuff to fix over twelve years.

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Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by tremon »

apparent wrote: post #120
Animats wrote: post #24

Just when you think Stellantis couldn't do anything worse... This is the company that ran Chrysler into the ground. The only remaining Chrysler product is one mini-van. They raised the prices on Jeeps so much that they lost their market. They went the "mild hybrid" route, with such silly things as 21 miles of electric range. The Stellantis dealers signed a joint letter demanding that the CEO be fired. That was done.…

> They went the "mild hybrid" route, with such silly things as 21 miles of electric range "Mild hybrid" typically refers to a vehicle with a passively-charged battery pack, not a PHEV that has any material amount of electric-only range.

What does that mean, "passively charged battery pack"? Did we invent batteries that slowly regain charge over time and I somehow missed it?

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by maximus-decimus »

tremon wrote: post #145
apparent wrote: post #120

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> They went the "mild hybrid" route, with such silly things as 21 miles of electric range "Mild hybrid" typically refers to a vehicle with a passively-charged battery pack, not a PHEV that has any material amount of electric-only range.

What does that mean, "passively charged battery pack"? Did we invent batteries that slowly regain charge over time and I somehow missed it?

I imagine it means a normal hybrid, in contrast to plug-in hybrids.

Normal hybrid will at least regain charge when you brake (and maybe from the gas engine?). You don't actively recharge it.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by mikestew »

qball wrote: post #135
mikestew wrote: post #95

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why slushbox is bad for fuel efficiency Automatics have been more efficient than manuals for decades. And the computer can shift a DCT faster than you can. These days a manual tranny is right up there with hand-crank starting your car: if you enjoy it, great, but don’t get smug because people don’t want to manually adjust the spark advance.

>Automatics have been more efficient than manuals for decades. No, they haven't. At least, not ones the average consumer could actually buy. While it's true that modern 8 or 10 speed automatic transmissions do now compete favorably with 6 speed manuals, the former didn't meaningfully exist in passenger cars or trucks until around 2017. Neither did DCTs outside of high-end brands- sure, they're starting to do that now…

So no, "decades" is bullshit.

First car I looked up from 20 years ago (I own one), and the automatic does just a bit better than the manual:

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2005_Scion_xB.shtml

We bought manual version despite that. You shouldn’t have a hard time finding other examples.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by cocoa19 »

willio58 wrote: post #58
hereme888 wrote: post #14

I had already scratched Jeep off my car-buying list years ago. Now the bulk of car-buying research is not "how good is it?" but "what are the purposefully in-built annoyances? Can I hack them away?"

My partner recently bought a newer Subaru. It’s great, and when we looked it up we saw it had remote start. Turns out it’s behind a subscription. When I found that out I essentially wrote off Subaru as a brand for my future car purchases. Catch me driving my 2017 civic into the ground before I pay a freaking subscription for basic vehicle functionality

I presume it needs a cellular subscription for this, which is not free nor basic functionality.

I’d understand a complaint for heated seats subscription, but not for remote start.

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by morshu9001 »

PyWoody wrote: post #130
morshu9001 wrote: post #84

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There was an article not long ago about a Subaru vuln that allowed anyone to remote start, track, or unlock any new Subaru

Wasn't it the other way round? Subaru was the only manufacturer that wasn't affected, I thought.

I'm referring to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42803279

Re: Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car Discounts

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Post by Schiendelman »

venturecruelty wrote: post #69

It's an interesting phenomenon. Something like this happens every week or two, and then these threads basically just become cope, with vague advice that most people can't easily do ("oh, just desolder the eSim contacts, it'll be fine"), as though that is in any way a longterm solution to corporate overreach in our daily lives. What if we all decided to actually work together to fix this terrible situation? Unfortunat…

First you have to pick one thing to work on. Just one. Then you have to find all the people who agree with you that ONE thing is the most important thing to pick, and get help on crafting a message that will stick, develop a theory of change, and work backwards from that theory to actionable efforts the people you recruit can do.

It's hard work. I've done it. I am happy to help you do it. Let me know.

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