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What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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I get why the general non-tech crowd pays for Netflix but why people who hang out on here do it is beyond me. Most shows/movies on Netflix are garbage, there are plenty of free services that you can stream anything you want from. Why the hell would I pay for Netflix or any other paid service?

Convinience and budget. If you're making 300k a year, then he $300/yr for Netflix premium is barely a budget item.

Also, family. I can understand not wanting to be the IT for all your non-tech family media needs.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Without destroying the button? and consistently on every type of remote out there that has a netflix button? How?

Why would you care about destroying the button if you never need it? But placing a piece of tape or something else non-conductive between the rubber cap and contacts should do the trick fairly non-destructively.

>Why would you care about destroying the button if you never need it?

I'm more worried about breaking the rest of the remote in the process.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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I wonder if it would be in the governments interest to heavily subsidize streaming services. Considering virtually everything seems to be getting hopelessly more expensive and no real progress on economic inequality seems likely outside a slim AI path - dollar for dollar free or cheap entertainment provides a lot of utility and can help keep the poor masses complacent. $30 a month makes a hell of a lot more of a dent…

Last thing I want is more billionaire handouts, with all due respect. As much as the rising costs suck, it is still better than the cable lock-in contracts and bundling deals. Netflix didn't lead to the cost of living crisis we arrived in today.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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YouTube has the best content that you absolutely can't and won't find in commercial productions, and exactly because they aren't producing anything, they're just a platform. I think the sub-$10 premium without music was in the right price range but even at $20+ it proposes much, much more value than your random streaming service. However, what they're not clear about is how the Premium fees actually land on the YT ch…

I don't understand the youtube love i see all over this site. It's constantly something i see that people are okay with.. but i see so many things i dislike within it. It has a social media style layer on top of it to entice people to keep watching, as well as creators to keep creating horrifyingly misleading titles/thumbnails, it captured a massive user base without utilizing ads and then removed the training wheels…

>It's constantly something i see that people are okay with.. but i see so many things i dislike within it.

Yes, welcome to a true blue monopoly.

I can list issues for days, but at the end of the day a lot of beloved creators in pretty much all sectors can make a living off of Youtube and not much elsewhere. Maybe some can jump to Nebula, but not all have content that fit that service. It's those creators I love, not Google.

I'd love nothing more than a proper competitor to rise up, or for courts to finally do their job and slice Youtube out of the Google ecosystem. But I'll be waiting a while for either. I've de-googled in pretty much every other aspect except Gmail and Youtube, and I simply don't see any other way out for now.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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post #57

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YouTube has the best content that you absolutely can't and won't find in commercial productions, and exactly because they aren't producing anything, they're just a platform. I think the sub-$10 premium without music was in the right price range but even at $20+ it proposes much, much more value than your random streaming service. However, what they're not clear about is how the Premium fees actually land on the YT ch…

45% of your subscription benefits Google as far as I know. I'm not willing to pay $20 a month for watching like an hour or two of mediocre homemade content Google did not even produce.

As any other subscription, it depends on your habits. I can pretty much subsist on entertainment, educational, political, podcast, and simply fluff content on Youtube without any other streaming service (because damn, what's the last TV show I really was excited to watch? the new King of the Hill Season a year ago?). $15 for that is fine, for now. But I'm eagerly keeping an eye out on another ship to jump to.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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Why? Nobody _needs_ Mickey Mouse. If the price for Mickey Mouse is too high, just don't buy it. That's not the point. The parent was saying "if you own content and display content, you must license it", not "the price needs to be reasonable". Typically, there are ways to do this. One way is forcing a company's distribution and streaming to be separate, and this already exists in some other parts of the market. So if…

> That's not the point. The parent was saying "if you own content and display content, you must license it", not "the price needs to be reasonable". Or perhaps creation and display/distribution cannot be done by the same entity / conglomerate.

FWIW, I think this is what led to the car dealership world we live in.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube has the best content that you absolutely can't and won't find in commercial productions, and exactly because they aren't producing anything, they're just a platform. I think the sub-$10 premium without music was in the right price range but even at $20+ it proposes much, much more value than your random streaming service. However, what they're not clear about is how the Premium fees actually land on the YT ch…

I don't understand the youtube love i see all over this site. It's constantly something i see that people are okay with.. but i see so many things i dislike within it. It has a social media style layer on top of it to entice people to keep watching, as well as creators to keep creating horrifyingly misleading titles/thumbnails, it captured a massive user base without utilizing ads and then removed the training wheels…

> youtube into just a search bar, with some subscriptions on the side for creators you actually care for

That's exactly the only way to use Youtube: start with the subscriptions page where you see new videos from channels you follow in reverse chronological order, then open up the videos into tabs, go fullscreen and play. The platform indeed is rather horrible and tries to be a video hosting plus a kitchen sink but you don't have to engage with it (even if they try to get you in to that). Sadly, the experience sucks for youtubers as well, accounts shut down for no good reason, copyright harassment, demonetization, videos removed, etc. with nothing much they can do about it. I would pay for Youtube if it was a video hosting service straight and honest, connecting creators and viewers, and not an opinionated platform moderated into nannies.

The problem with Youtube is that it has good content despite everything else so they can force this crap on us. If there ever was a friendlier implementation people would jump to it but network effects give Youtube its power. As long as you can't follow your subscriptions outside Youtube it's hard for competition to come out of nowhere. Much like there's no aggregation of social networks where you could follow people on various services without having to be on every single one even if you like Facebook and your kids like Instagram.

I last watched tv at my parents house in the last millennium. Never had a tv because there was nothing interesting to watch. Then Youtube came and all the niche people filming their stuff on all the niche channels. Stuff that would never ever be in any commercial, mainstream network because they would have to try to appease the largest possible audience. Coincidentally, all the Youtube channels that grow too big and make the channel a "production" rather than a "guy with a camera" unequivocally become bland and boring, averaged, dull, and all the nice rough edges nannified away just like networked stuff from big production companies.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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It's weird. When Netflix came about, I was excited to dump all the bespoke pirating stuff that it replaced. I didn't mind paying for content, in fact, I was glad to. Fast forward a while, and now Netflix seems to be an undiscoverable mess of old and foreign content while charging twice as much. Each IP owner felt it necessary to make their own way worse clone, and still, after paying more than a hundred a month, ther…

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Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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> That's not the point. The parent was saying "if you own content and display content, you must license it", not "the price needs to be reasonable". Or perhaps creation and display/distribution cannot be done by the same entity / conglomerate.

FWIW, I think this is what led to the car dealership world we live in.

That is because cars require maintenance and parts, so laws were enacted which ensured that a liable party would be located in the end user's jurisdiction.

Streaming services are not critical infrastructure that require an active supply chain.

Re: What you can get for the price of a Netflix subscription

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post #107

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Why? Nobody _needs_ Mickey Mouse. If the price for Mickey Mouse is too high, just don't buy it. That's not the point. The parent was saying "if you own content and display content, you must license it", not "the price needs to be reasonable". Typically, there are ways to do this. One way is forcing a company's distribution and streaming to be separate, and this already exists in some other parts of the market. So if…

> That's not the point. The parent was saying "if you own content and display content, you must license it", not "the price needs to be reasonable". Or perhaps creation and display/distribution cannot be done by the same entity / conglomerate.

  > Or perhaps creation and display/distribution cannot be done by the same entity / conglomerate.
So if I as an artist paint a painting, I could not sell it in my small personal gallery by the beach? That is ridiculous.
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