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How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by petcat »

GJim wrote: post #128
petcat wrote: post #106

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> China becomes the world's #1 superpower, while EU remains undisputable #2 How does EU even remotely benefit from this bizarre fantasy scenario where it flips alliances toward China? The fundamentals don't change. EU has no tech and doesn't produce anything. China would only exploit the partnership even more than they already do.

> EU has no tech and doesn't produce anything. What a poor attempt at trolling!

Yes it was an exaggeration. Withdrawn.

But the point is still that the economic fundamentals don't change by shifting alliances. EU would still be under the same pressure.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by [deleted] »

ArnoVW wrote: post #139
jdibs wrote: post #57

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Given the demographics of Europe, what this means is that old people will vote for young people to be fed into a meat mincer just so they can keep collecting their pensions for a couple decades more. Let's call a spade a spade then. This guy is doing just that: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2025/11/20/outcry-a...

I think you are misreading the article. The general is warning that if we do not show preparedness and willingness now, in the long run it will cost more. Si vis pacem para bellum

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Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by mystraline »

GJim wrote: post #128
petcat wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> China becomes the world's #1 superpower, while EU remains undisputable #2 How does EU even remotely benefit from this bizarre fantasy scenario where it flips alliances toward China? The fundamentals don't change. EU has no tech and doesn't produce anything. China would only exploit the partnership even more than they already do.

> EU has no tech and doesn't produce anything. What a poor attempt at trolling!

I dont think its trolling.

Ive heard the same sentiment locally and at some conventions with low/no European representation.

Its also a corrolary to "china steals tech"... Except for all the tech they're innovating and creating.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by breppp »

kombine wrote: post #109
breppp wrote: post #14

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I think the more interesting thing here is the ability to fantasize categories such as genocide where war can be maximalized into genocide when you don't like the winner, and the genocidal act that has started said war (classic genocide mass killings of civilians by death squads) is appropriated by the perpetrators turned victims

This is demagoguery. There is ample evidencence that Israel committed genocide in Gaza. Historians who study genocide all their careers, including Israeli Jewish ones, concluded it a long time ago. There is 100 pages with references in the application by South Africa to the ICJ. If you intend to take the same route as the Holocaust denialists, the burden is on you to disprove all the evidence.

last time I checked a basic part of a trial is the mere existence of it is not a proof of guilt..

While most of your argument is the fact that because South Africa has sued Israel in international court then it is somehow proof of genocide.

Regarding scholars, again not enough I am sorry.

In reality after more than two years the Gazan population hasn't even declined in size, which makes the entire case for genocide mostly a political joke on people who were mostly systematically exterminated like the Jews, Armenians and Tutsi.

Generally this is so far from a real genocide killing rates, reasons and methods that the only explanation is that some regimes have an interest at removing the substance out of the definition of genocide

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by Stranger43 »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #53
petcat wrote: post #24

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EU is in a very tough spot right now. They're getting squeezed on all sides economically by USA and China while simultaneously facing a Russian invasion on their eastern borders. The relationship with the American administration has deteriorated badly and any action seen as "retaliation", such as this policy blockade, would almost definitely result in USA withdrawing even more support for Ukraine in the war. I think,…

> unless EU nations want to put boots on the ground. Is such a thing even possible in the EU? I understand that it's an economic and policy bloc. Does Brussels have the authority to raise an army from EU members?

No nor does it have logistical capability to deliver even half of the equipment currently being promised/discussed within a time-frame of less then 5-10year.

It's all dependent on the national government voluntarily following the advice of Brussels, and in most cases they don't really have the resources the EU wants them to commit to "The Ukrainian nationalist Cause".

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by [deleted] »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #53
petcat wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EU is in a very tough spot right now. They're getting squeezed on all sides economically by USA and China while simultaneously facing a Russian invasion on their eastern borders. The relationship with the American administration has deteriorated badly and any action seen as "retaliation", such as this policy blockade, would almost definitely result in USA withdrawing even more support for Ukraine in the war. I think,…

> unless EU nations want to put boots on the ground. Is such a thing even possible in the EU? I understand that it's an economic and policy bloc. Does Brussels have the authority to raise an army from EU members?

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Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by aDyslecticCrow »

pfdietz wrote: post #107
ninetyninenine wrote: post #86

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Why does the EU need the US military? China and Ukraine mostly?

The EU's nuclear deterrent is weak. Is France committed to defend the rest of Europe with its nukes? And the UK (while a NATO member) is not a member of the EU anymore.

Don't confuse the "EU" with "Europe". One is a trade and law union, the other is a continent of countries. Europe isn't a unanimous entity either, its a big pile of countries with independent politics.

The nuclear deterrent is just as strong as it needs to be. If nuke strikes come, we're all dead regardless if we have 5 or 500 bombs to drop on Moscow.

And again, this is irrelevant to abusive authority on technology. If "Europe" wasn't "dependent on US defence" would they send a destroyer fleet to the US cost as a retaliation?

The US is using its tech companies to pressure foreign democratic allied countries over political issues. This is undermining the free trade that allowed these companies to exist in the fireplace.

Continued moves in this direction will just push nationalistic ideas in European nations to cut out US influence entirely.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by bjord »

mothballed wrote: post #69
bjord wrote: post #60

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all of the above is true, but just to be clear about who we're discussing, weev is a genuine neo-nazi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev#Alt-right_affiliations

Weev might be a real neo-nazi, but to be clear, right now an entire country (Ukraine) has also been claimed of being neo-nazis and life-altering state action taken against them without some due process to determine they are. Weev hasn't been convicted of anything serious (nor I think anything at all) that has stuck.

I'm not editorializing here. here's one of many examples:

"Please, Donald Trump, kill the Jews, down to the last woman and child. Leave nothing left of the Jewish menace..."

re: ukraine, I'm not sure how that's remotely relevant here and frankly I think you're doing ukrainians a profound disservice by comparing the two

if you look at my background, you'll see I understand this better than most

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by dang »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #35

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

This topic is divisive and the thread has quite a few comments on the wrong side of the line, but yours stands out as particularly bad, and you've been doing it in other threads as well:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45813701

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45684284

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45684198

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA

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Post by kelipso »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #138
embedding-shape wrote: post #135

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I'm not sure what the purpose is to go out on the streets for half a day, then everyone goes back inside and continue like nothing ever happen? Go out, stay out until change is enacted. It's called striking, and if you had any sort of good unions, they'd be planning a general strike for a long time, and it should go on until you get change. You know, like how other "modern" countries do it when the politicians forget…

General strikes weren't particularly common in the 60's in the US and those protests were considered widespread and effective.

The No Kings “general strikes” consist almost entirely of retired people. I’m sure I saw anyone under 60 in those protests.
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