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You can't eat AI, either. Yet another hidden benefit of a human workforce, that AI can't match.
You mean like, at least we can eat the human workforce?
It’s more recyclable than old gpus and out of date models
It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
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Re: It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
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Hasn't he been saying that OpenAI is going to shut down every year for the last few years now? And that models are never going to get better than they were in 2022? I think he's pretty clearly a grifter chasing an audience that wants to be reassured that big tech is going away soon.
Ed Zitron may be many things but he is no grifter. He writes what he believes and believes what he says, and I basically agree with all of it. The chattering class in SV has been wildly wrong for years, and they'll really look foolish when the market crashes horribly and these companies collapse.
How do you want to define grifter? He shows up, makes a lot of big promises, talks a lot of shit, doesn't actually engage with any real criticism, gets paid for it, and then exits, stage left. He could be right, he could be wrong, but he leaves no room for debate. If all you want is someone to yell at you about how right your feelings on something are, I mean, hey, I have a therapist too. I don't ask her for financial advice though.
Re: It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
#143May I interject with my pathetic attempt at a Classification of Intelligences ala Linnaeus
Pre-AI :: Examples :: Timeline
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NHI Non-human Intelligence :: e.g. dolphins, apes, crows etc. :: millions of years
HI Human Intelligence :: e.g. Einstein, Trump, Confuscius, Homer :: thousands of years
Post-AI
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AI Artificial Intelligence :: ChatGTP, Gemini, many others :: countable months
AGI :: Artificial General Intelligence ; not there yet; :: zero
AIApHI AI Assisted/Approved/Audited Human Intelligence :: See AI :: countable months
HIApAI Human Intelligence Assisted/Approved/Audited AI :: The Future? :: zero
I have mentioned no individuals here to avoid legal action. My point on AI is ... wait and see. Chill.
Re: It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
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You could literally eliminate homelessness, world hunger, and fully pay health care costs in that same timeframe with much less cash.
Fully pay health care costs for _who_ for four years with 1 trillion dollars? Doesn't America alone already spend 2 or 3 trillion a year on healthcare?
America spends $5T on healthcare per year.
That is twice as much per capita as our "peer" nations (UK, France, Canada, Germany, etc) and we have poorer outcomes.
Re: It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
#145I don't like Ed Zitron automatic dismissal of everything AI and the constant profanities in his writing are getting old, and it's usually not very well structured, but that said... I like the perspective he has about the money involved. https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-case-against-generative-ai/ OpenAI needs 1 trillion dollars in next four years just to keep existing. That's more than all currently available capital,…
I think it's pretty smart actually.
Altman has sort of linked the fate of OpenAI to that of Nvidia, AMD, Oracle, Microsft etc with these huge deals / partnerships. We've seen the impact of these deals on stock prices before even a penny has changed hands.
Tracks with his reputation for power play and politics.
Re: It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
#146My feeling is that the tech industry has been in, "hot water" since at least 2018 and has been using private equity and bullshit hype-trains to garner interest in new technologies in lieu of the public getting hip to the fact that mostly computers are spying on you, making you mentally ill, and stealing your data in exchange for, "being able to participate." As pointed out by others OpenAI and the rest of the AI ecosystem will need a financial miracle to stay afloat and offer their products for a competitive price.
There's so much of what, "AI" is becoming that just seems like a massive psy-op to breathe one last breath of life into what is the skeleton of the old Silicon Valley. Innovation is possible but if the future really is liberal authoritarianism/oligarchy there's no room in the contrived market for, "innovative products that greatly improve human life."
There's hope in: https://worrydream.com/
Re: It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
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Much of the value I get from ChatGPT is based on it's memory system that has a good profile on me. For example if I ask it to find me something to eat at X restaurant, it will already know my allergies, dietary preferences, weight goals, medications, other foods I like, etc and suggest an item based on that, all workout me explicitly telling it. Moving from ChatGPT to Claude I would lose a lot of this valuable histor…
Or you could type up "My allergies are X, Y, Z, I have the following preferences..." etc. and put it into whatever chat bot you like. Obviously this is a bit of a pain, but it probably constrains significantly how much of a premium ChatGPT can charge. You might not bother if ChatGPT is time and a half more expensive, but what if it's 3x as much as the competition? What if there's a free alternative that's just as goo…
I pay for the $200/mo ChatGPT, to me that's insanely cheap compared to the value it provides. Better pricing is highly unlikely to make me switch. If a competitor were able to sustain a lead in model intelligence/capability then I'd consider it.
Re: It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Much of the value I get from ChatGPT is based on it's memory system that has a good profile on me. For example if I ask it to find me something to eat at X restaurant, it will already know my allergies, dietary preferences, weight goals, medications, other foods I like, etc and suggest an item based on that, all workout me explicitly telling it. Moving from ChatGPT to Claude I would lose a lot of this valuable histor…
Have you tried asking ChatGPT to output everything it knows about you to a format easily digestible by LLMs? Does the memory stick between model switches?
I suspect it does RAG on my previous convos, so this wouldn't work fully, but to some extent yes that would help.
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#149The current AI wave has been compared (by sama) to electricity and sometimes transistors. AI is just going to be in all the products. The trillion dollar question is: Do you care what kind of electricity you are using? So, will you care what kind of AI you are using. In the last few interviews with him I have listened to he has said that what he wants is "your ai" that knows you, everywhere that you are. So his game…
>The current AI wave has been compared (by sama) to electricity and sometimes transistors. AI is just going to be in all the products.
Sorry, but you have to be beyond thick to believe any of this.
Re: It's OpenAI's world, we're just living in it
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could literally eliminate homelessness, world hunger, and fully pay health care costs in that same timeframe with much less cash.
Homelessness and world hunger are not bottlenecked by money. There's a stronger case for healthcare, but that's also substantially a political issue.
There's a stronger case for world hunger being bottlenecked than healthcare. World hunger is a logistics problem now, but no amount of money lets you print doctors.