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Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by ssk42 »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #51
jzig wrote: post #10

I'm confused by how Opus is presented to be superior in nearly every way for coding purposes yet the general consensus and my own experience seem to be that Sonnet is much much better. Has anyone switched to entirely using Opus from Sonnet? Or maybe switching to Opus for certain things while using Sonnet for others?

I don't doubt Opus is technically superior, but it's not practically superior for me. It's still pretty much impossible to have any LLM one-shot a complex implementation. There's just too many details to figure out and too much to explain for it to get correct. Often, there's uncertainty and ambiguity that I only understand the correct answer (or rather less bad answer) after I've spent time deep in the code. Having…

You can also always have it create design docs and mermaid diagrams for each task. Outline the why much easier earlier, shifting left

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by nevertoolate »

steinvakt2 wrote: post #124
OldGreenYodaGPT wrote: post #98

Claude Code has honestly made me at least 10x more productive. I’ve burned through about 3 billion tokens and have been consistently merging 5+ PRs a day, tackling tons of tech debt, improving GitHub Actions, and making crazy progress on product work

I also have this feeling that I'm 2-10x more productive. But isn't it curious how a lot of devs feel this way, but no devs that I know have the experience that any of their colleagues have become 2-10x more productive?

10x means to me that i can finish a month of work in max 2 days and go cloud watching. What does it mean for you?

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by ryandrake »

tomrod wrote: post #133
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When people post this stuff, it's like, are you also confused that Nike sells shoes AND shorts AND shirts, and there's different colors and skus for each article of clothing, and sometimes they sell direct to consumer and other times to stores and to universities, and also there's sales and promotions, etc, etc? It's almost as if companies sell more than one product. Why is this the top comment on so many threads abo…

> Why is this the top comment on so many threads about tech products? Because you overestimate the difference that the representative person understands. A more accurate analogy is that Nike sells green-blue shoes and Nike sells blue-green shoes, but the blue-green shoes add 3 feet to your jump and green-blue shoes add 20 mph to your 100 yard dash sprint. You know you need one of them for tomorrow's hurdles race but…

Also, the green-blue shoes charge per-step, but the blue-green shoes are billed monthly by signing up for BlueGreenPro+ or BlueGreenMax+, each with a hidden step limit but BlueGreenMax+ is the one that gives you access to the Cyan step model which is better; plus the green-blue shoes are only useful when sprinting, but the blue-green shoes can be used in many different events, but only through the Nike blue-green API that only some track&field venues have adopted...

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by samtp »

AstroBen wrote: post #136
OldGreenYodaGPT wrote: post #98

Claude Code has honestly made me at least 10x more productive. I’ve burned through about 3 billion tokens and have been consistently merging 5+ PRs a day, tackling tons of tech debt, improving GitHub Actions, and making crazy progress on product work

only 10x? I'm at least 100x as productive. I only type at a measly 100wpm, whereas Claude can output 100+ tokens a second I'm outputting a PR every 6 minutes. The reviewers are using Claude to review everything. It used to take a day to add 100 lines to the codebase.. now I can add 100 lines in one prompt If I want even more productivity (at risk of making the rest of my team look slow) I can tell Claude to output do…

So no human reads the actual code that you push to production? Are you not worried about security risks, spaghetti code, and other issues? Or does Claude magically make all of those concerns go away?

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by afro88 »

ActorNightly wrote: post #140
ryandrake wrote: post #60

Am I the only one super confused about how to even get started trying out this stuff? Just so I wouldn't be "that critic who doesn't try the stuff he criticizes," I tried GitHub Copilot and was kind of not very impressed. Someone on HN told me Copilot sucks, use Claude. But I have no idea what the right way to do it is because there are so many paths to choose. Let's see: we have Claude Code vs. Claude the API vs. Cl…

If you want your own cheap IDE integration, you can set up VSCode with Continue extension, ollama running locally, and a small agent model. https://docs.continue.dev/features/agent/model-setup . If you want to understand how all of this works, the best way is to build a coding agent manually. Its not that hard 1. Start with Ollama running locally and Gemma3 QAT models. https://ollama.com/library/gemma3 2. Write a wra…

OP is asking for where to get started with Claude for coding. They're confused. They just want to mess around with it in VSCode. And you start talking about Ollama, PAT, coding your own wrapper, composing a system prompt etc.!?

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by torginus »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #57
qsort wrote: post #5

All three major labs released something within hours of each other. This anime arc is insane.

as if they wait competitor first then launch it at the same time to make market decide which one is best

I think this means that GPT5 is better - you can't launch a worse model after the competitor supersedes you - you have to show that you're in the lead even if its just for a day.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by qingcharles »

zarzavat wrote: post #118
ryandrake wrote: post #60

Am I the only one super confused about how to even get started trying out this stuff? Just so I wouldn't be "that critic who doesn't try the stuff he criticizes," I tried GitHub Copilot and was kind of not very impressed. Someone on HN told me Copilot sucks, use Claude. But I have no idea what the right way to do it is because there are so many paths to choose. Let's see: we have Claude Code vs. Claude the API vs. Cl…

Github Copilot and Claude code are not exactly competitors. Github Copilot is autocomplete, highly useful if you use VS Code, but if you are using e.g. Jetbrains then you have other options. Copilot comes with a bunch of other stuff that I rarely use. Claude code is project-wide editing, from the CLI. They complement each other well. As far as I'm concerned the utility of the AI-focused editors has been diminished by…

This isn't correct. GitHub Copilot now totally competes with Claude Code. You can have it create an entire app for you in "Agent" mode if you're feeling brave. In fact, seeing as Copilot is built directly into Visual Studio when you download it, I guess they have a one-up.

Copilot isn't locked to a specific LLM, though. You can select the model from a panel, but I don't think you can plug in your own right now, and the ones you can select might not be SOTA because of that.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by true_religion »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #95
AlecSchueler wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what's complicated about what you're describing? They offer two models and you can pay more for higher usage limits, then you can choose if you want to run it in your browser or in your terminal. Like what else would you expect? Fwiw I have a Claude pro plan and have no interest in using other offerings so I'm not sure if they're super simple (one model, one interface, one pricing plan)?

When people post this stuff, it's like, are you also confused that Nike sells shoes AND shorts AND shirts, and there's different colors and skus for each article of clothing, and sometimes they sell direct to consumer and other times to stores and to universities, and also there's sales and promotions, etc, etc? It's almost as if companies sell more than one product. Why is this the top comment on so many threads abo…

This is like being told to buy Nike shoes. Then when you proudly display your new cleats, they tell you "no, I meant you should by basketball shoes. The cleats are terrible."

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by djha-skin »

Opus 4(.1) is so expensive[1]. Even Sonnet[2] costs me $5 per hour (basically) using OpenRouter + Codename Goose[3]. The crazy thing is Sonnet 3.5 costs the same thing[4] right now. Gemini Flash is more reasonable[5], but always seems to make the wrong decisions in the end, spinning in circles. OpenAI is better, but still falls short of Claude's performance. Claude also gives back 400's from its API if you CTRL-C in the middle though, so that's annoying.

Economics is important. Best bang for the buck seems to be OpenAI ChatGPT 4.1 mini[6]. Does a decent job, doesn't flood my context window with useless tokens like Claude does, API works every time. Gets me out of bad spots. Can get confused, but I've been able to muddle through with it.

1: https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-4.1

2: https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-sonnet-4

3: https://block.github.io/goose/

4: https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-3.5-sonnet

5: https://openrouter.ai/google/gemini-2.5-flash

6: https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-4.1-mini

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