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Claude Opus 4.1

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Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by AlecSchueler »

ryandrake wrote: post #60

Am I the only one super confused about how to even get started trying out this stuff? Just so I wouldn't be "that critic who doesn't try the stuff he criticizes," I tried GitHub Copilot and was kind of not very impressed. Someone on HN told me Copilot sucks, use Claude. But I have no idea what the right way to do it is because there are so many paths to choose. Let's see: we have Claude Code vs. Claude the API vs. Cl…

I'm not sure what's complicated about what you're describing? They offer two models and you can pay more for higher usage limits, then you can choose if you want to run it in your browser or in your terminal. Like what else would you expect?

Fwiw I have a Claude pro plan and have no interest in using other offerings so I'm not sure if they're super simple (one model, one interface, one pricing plan)?

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by gloosx »

haaz wrote: post #9

it is barely an improvement according to their own benchmarks. not saying thats a bad thing, but not enough for anybody to notice any difference

They need to leave some room to release 10 more models. They could crank benchmarks to 100% but then no new model is needed lol? Pretty sure these pretty benchmark graphs are all completely staged marketing numbers since they do solve the same problems they are being trained on – no novel or unknown problematic is presented to them.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by cultureulterior »

ryandrake wrote: post #73
olalonde wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude Code CLI.

Thanks. With the CLI, can you get Copilot-ish things like tab-completion and inline commands directly in your IDE? Or do you need to copy/paste to and from a terminal? It feels like running a command on the IDE and then copying the output into your IDE is a pretty primitive way to operate.

Claude does the coding, and edits your files. You just sit back and relax. You don't do any tab completion etc.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by furyofantares »

rirze wrote: post #56
furyofantares wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit confused by people hitting usage limits so quickly. I use Opus exclusively and don't hit limits. ccusage reports I'm using the API-equivalent of $2000/mo

You always have to ask which plan they're paying for. Sometimes people complain about the $20 per month plan...

In this case I'm replying to someone who lead with "I'm on the Max plan" but I realize now that's ambiguous, maybe they are on 5x while I'm on 20x.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by highfrequency »

paxys wrote: post #15

Why is everything releasing today?

If they release before GPT-5, they don't have to compare to GPT-5 in their benchmarks. It's a big PR win to be able to plausibly claim that your model is the best coding model at the time of release.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by AlecSchueler »

mrcwinn wrote: post #79

o3 and o3-pro are just so good. Sonnet goes off the deep end too often and Opus, in my experience, is not as strong at reasoning compared to OpenAI, despite the higher costs. Rarely do we see a worse, more expensive product win - but competition is good and I’m rooting for Anthropic nonetheless!

Off the deep end?

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by kridsdale3 »

x187463 wrote: post #17
qsort wrote: post #5

All three major labs released something within hours of each other. This anime arc is insane.

Given the GPT5 rumors, August is just getting started.

Given the Gregorian Calendar and the planet's path through its orbit, August is just getting started.

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by dennisy »

vlade11115 wrote: post #70
ryandrake wrote: post #60

Am I the only one super confused about how to even get started trying out this stuff? Just so I wouldn't be "that critic who doesn't try the stuff he criticizes," I tried GitHub Copilot and was kind of not very impressed. Someone on HN told me Copilot sucks, use Claude. But I have no idea what the right way to do it is because there are so many paths to choose. Let's see: we have Claude Code vs. Claude the API vs. Cl…

Claude Code has two usage modes: pay-per-token or subscription. Both modes are using API under the hood, but with subscription mode you are only paying a fixed amount a month. Each subscription tier has some undisclosed limits, cheaper plans have lower usage limits. So I would recommend paying $20 and trying the Claude Code via that subscription.

No Opus in the $20 tier though sadly

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by ryandrake »

adamors wrote: post #63
ryandrake wrote: post #60

Am I the only one super confused about how to even get started trying out this stuff? Just so I wouldn't be "that critic who doesn't try the stuff he criticizes," I tried GitHub Copilot and was kind of not very impressed. Someone on HN told me Copilot sucks, use Claude. But I have no idea what the right way to do it is because there are so many paths to choose. Let's see: we have Claude Code vs. Claude the API vs. Cl…

Download Cursor and try it through that, IMO that's currently the most polished experience especially since you can change models on the fly. For more advanced usecases, CLI is better but for getting your feet wet I think Cursor is the best choice.

Thanks. Too bad you need to switch editors to go that path. I assume the Cursor monthly plans are not the same as the Claude monthly plans and you can't use one for the other if you want to experiment...

Re: Claude Opus 4.1

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Post by adastra22 »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #52
adastra22 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time that Sonnet is acting like it has brain damage (which is once or twice a day), I switch to Opus and it seems to sort things out pretty fast. This is unscientific anicdata though, and it could just be that switching models (any model) would have worked.

Maybe context rot? If model's output seems to be getting worse or in a rut, then try just clearing context / starting a new session.

Switching models with the same context, in this case.
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