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Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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One of the fringe benefits of going on a cruise is that you can disconnect from the Internet for a week. Hit up the bar, make love to your wife, gamble a bit. All without your phone constantly buzzing in your pocket. If you go on a cruise to immediately open your laptop it seems like a waste of time and money.

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Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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> Why would someone in corporate IT responsible for this not ask Claude to write a script that does this on a much more frequent basis Because they have nine trillion bugs in their booking system that have been on backlog since 1910. According to this source [1] (of dubious quality, granted) Royal Caribbean's entire IT department is about 140 people headed by an electrical engineer. [1] https://rocketreach.co/royal-c…

That's even more reason to have LLMs do their work for them, not less.

Break things, break fast, break more, break the rest of it, keep breaking... What was the catchphrase? Breaking things doesn't help broken systems.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Planes, at most, have a couple hundred people onboard. Cruise ships are getting towards the 10k person mark. One cruise ship will be substantially more load on the local satellites and ground station than a plane will.

The bandwidth of a single starlink terminal is going to be saturated at airplane capacity anyway. The extra number of people on a cruise ship just means service degradation, not excess bandwidth consumption. The price difference is just based on what the market will bear. Trapped on a cruise for a week, you are much more desperate for Internet. Plus you've paid a lot more for the trip and the fee doesn't feel so larg…

A cruise ship shouldn’t have any issues with having 10 or 20 terminals installed and the clear skies in all directions could mean each has its own bird.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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This doesn't really work with iOS devices. You need to have an android or better a travel router.

How do you get through a portal on a travel router?

The steps are as follows

1. Turn on travel router

2. Connect to its network

3. Go to travel router's admin page (192.168.8.1 or similar)

4. Click buttons and join the Hotel/Cruise/Flight WiFi

5. Go to neverssl.com (or google.com or whatever)

6. See the captive portal of Hotel/Cruise/Flight and follow instructions.

In other words, for the portal, it is no different than using your phone. The extra step is logging into the admin portal and having the router join the public wifi first.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

#145

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> curious why they don’t just install Starlink to cut costs Cruise ships are tiny cities. The density overloads Starlink.

Starlink can do half a gigabit per beam and point 8 beams at the same cell. With 5000 people on a ship, that's enough bandwidth for half of them to watch HD video at the same time. On land they want to spread out the bandwidth as much as possible, but on the ocean most cells are empty or only need a time share fraction of a beam, so they might as well focus on those mini cities.

> Starlink can...point 8 beams at the same cell

Source for this capability?

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

#146

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I’d guess that concurrent demand would be lower on a plane. A cruise ship has people with nothing to do wandering around, presumably screwing around on the internet being one of them.

> A cruise ship has people with nothing to do wandering around The major point of a cruise is that there is constantly something to do. It's wall-to-wall entertainment, 24-hours a day. My 2-year-old was too excited to sleep on a Disney cruise, so we just walked around and found character photos at 10PM. She was too shy to take her picture, so I got my picture taken with her hiding her face on my shoulder. (FWIW: A cr…

Cruises sound and look like absolute nightmares. Physical manifestation of brainrot. Cyberpunk hell

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

#147

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Starlink can do half a gigabit per beam and point 8 beams at the same cell. With 5000 people on a ship, that's enough bandwidth for half of them to watch HD video at the same time. On land they want to spread out the bandwidth as much as possible, but on the ocean most cells are empty or only need a time share fraction of a beam, so they might as well focus on those mini cities.

> Starlink can...point 8 beams at the same cell Source for this capability?

https://mikepuchol.com/modeling-starlink-capacity-843b2387f5...

Beams are 250MHz wide and they have 2GHz of allocation.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

#148

Just need to point out: A cruise is a ^%$^#$ expensive vacation. For me, part of vacation is focusing on the moment, place, and people that I'm with. Cruises have plenty of entertainment onboard, so if you feel the need to do something like this to save a buck, maybe take a deep breath and try to take advantage of what's already there for your entertainment. If I ever take advantage of this hack... It'll be to downlo…

I've taken transatlantic repositioning cruises for a few hundred bucks back when I was in my twenties and funemployed. Feels appropriate for that scenario.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

#149

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I think, in 2025 you are better off with this https://www.starlink.com/us/roam

Often forbidden on cruise ships as it would be on flights for the same reasons (possible interference). In an airplane it's also impossible to make it work though those tiny windows of course. But on a cruise ship balcony it would probably be fine.

The rea$on that it i$ forbidden on crui$e $hip$ i$ not due to interference, whatever the company may claim.
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