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Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re on the front page of hn… while they may not see it right away it’s possible some bored tech blogger picks up the story

Cruise ship passenger saves $170, thousands of hours and even more money are spent ensuring it can't ever happen again. Did the article always say REDACTEDCRUISELINE ?

No, it named the cruiseline

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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> This is .1% problems Cruises are a stereotypically mass-market vacation. In most cases they’re cheaper than a hotel.

> In most cases they’re cheaper than a hotel.

Eh, depends on the package. I went on a 7 day cruise. Definitely not cheaper than a hotel, given that you are paying per person. So if you have 2 kids, you'd pay roughly $850/day.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> imagine one of the ships officers will be tipped off by the IT team If it’s any of the major cruise lines there almost certainly isn’t anyone in IT paying that much attention.

Yea, I'd think something like onboard Internet is something set up once for the ship, and then basically forgotten about as long as the overall revenue is above some "reasonable" threshold given the number of passengers. Ain't no security team sitting there monitoring user registration metrics in real-time looking for fraud. At best, they might pull logs every quarter to look for vulnerabilities like this to close.

Why would someone in corporate IT responsible for this not ask Claude to write a script that does this on a much more frequent basis? That person might get a nice attaboi for it, but much less likely an actual bonus for it. Although, I can't imagine they are losing too much money on each cruise from this hack unless the next DefCon is on a cruise ship. Then realizing that 0 passengers signed up for WiFi might seem strange

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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post #82

I imagine one of the ships officers will be tipped off by the IT team about the unusual number of free-internet activation attached to your booking id, and either give your room a visit to knock it off, or just bill some multiple of the $170 anyway. It sounds like it should only be used only a few times per booking, and this is going to hit at least 4/hour for multiple hours a day, so it will stick out like a sore th…

If I was going to go on a cruise, I'd probably bring with my linux laptop for capturing WPA handshakes, and then use the 15 minutes to set up jobs for Hashcat to burn through on my gaming PC at home. There is A LOT of AP's on cruise ships. Odds are a few are crackable.

If I were going on a cruise, I could think of many much better use of my time than cracking APs. This just seems like you're doing cruising wrong if you're so concerned about it that this is where you want to take your experience

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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Internet on any ship is expensive as soon as you're out in maritime area - where data transfer is done via satellite services. So it is not necessarily because a captive market, where the cruise liners can fleece you. They pay crazy prices to the telecom/ISPs. So if you're getting free internet out at seas, it is really at the cost of the ones actually paying the bills - or in this case, the cruise liner.

That's like saying your AWS egress fees are so expensive because AMZN pays so much for their bandwidth. Um, no, it's because it is a huge profit center precisely because the profit margin is so high

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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post #16

OP, great work, bypassing internet restrictions is always fun. Though, I hope your family isn't cruising much in the future-- sharing stuff like this, with so many specifics about which cruise line and exact retry methodologies used, is a surefire way to get it shut down. (Or worse, a nasty internet bill from the cruise line.)

Thanks! My thought process was that realistically, a negligible amount of people will even attempt this. Also, there will always be a way to bypass internet restrictions. I will say, it would be kind of cool if this post gets big enough that someone from the cruise line sees it and actually feels that they need to put in the time to patch it.

Next time you might want to wait until your are off of the cruise ship before posting about it on a blog with your name. They'd probably be within their stated passage contract ([link-redacted]) to disembark you at the next port.

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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For what it's worth, based on somewhat frequent posts to r/cruise and Cruise Critic, travel routers are very often confiscated by ship personnel and held for pickup until departure day. They appear on major cruise lines prohibited items list (but curiously are banned on Carnival but not their subsidiary [name-redacted]).

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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post #17

I used a travel router on my recent trip to Argentina and found it quite useful. It will be a permanent part of my travel kit. Some cooler uses: - streaming HDR video from closed MacBook running Amphetamine to Vision Pro via Moonlink - Having a working HomePod mini in the hotel room. The hotel internet did not like multiple devices off the router. It didn’t reject it outright but it throttled or nerfed it. Individual…

> travel router

What's the difference between that and tethering off your phone?

Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170

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On Royal Caribbean, it's much simpler. You can open a hotspot and allow other devices to connect. We paid for one device, and friends and family could connect whenever they were nearby. At one point, we had up to 8 connected devices with no issues.

This doesn't really work with iOS devices. You need to have an android or better a travel router.

How do you get through a portal on a travel router?
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