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Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

#142

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I don't think that Apple suing to protect its intellectual property is wrong. But even if I did, I don't buy the logic that doing the 'wrong' thing is okay because the other guy did it first.

Yeah, because "slide-to-unlock" is so innovative.

If it is, I'd like to see the size of the check Apple is writing Neonode. Oh, wait...

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

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Seems like everyone is suing everyone these days. Apple sues Samsung, Samsung counter-sues, Google sue Apple and no doubt Apple will counter-sue and then someone else will counter-sue them all. The patent system is a joke, maybe this will be the final blow that will make someone take notice that the patent system needs some reform.

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post #127

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>> What Apple did do was market this newer form factor very successfully Marketing had a lot to do with it, but so did the quality of the OS. Having gone through several iterations of Windows Mobile devices prior to the first iPhone, the iPhone was the first smartphone that I used that I didn't want to slam on the floor and stomp on repeatedly.

Sure, I'll buy that the iPhone was an improvement. Apple took an idea that was already out in the market, and made it not suck (as much). Is that enough justification for them to sue everyone else in an attempt to lock them out of the market?

>> Is that enough justification for them to sue everyone else in an attempt to lock them out of the market?

To be clear, I don't agree with Apple's lawsuit, I think it's a waste of time/money related to one of Steve Job's personal grievances.

Keep in mind, however, that Apple is not suing everyone else. They aren't suing over Windows Phones. They didn't sue Palm/HP over WebOS. They also didn't sue RIM over the Playbook UI (although Palm should have sued them for knocking off WebOS). WP and WebOS do not look like knockoffs of iOS, unlike some of the disputed Samsung models.

Also remember that MS sued (and got lucrative settlements from) many of the same players that Apple is currently tangling with.

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post #115

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Why is Apple evil for defending itself from companies who are copying much of the look and feel of their phones? If you invented a new approach to smartphones that became really successful and changed the industry, wouldn't you want to protect your hard work from others who copied it?

Uh, Apple has copied android. iOS'es most fundamental feature, notifications, was ripped off from android.

>> iOS'es most fundamental feature, notifications, was ripped off from android.

I won't dispute whether notifications was ripped from Android, but calling Notifications the "most fundamental" feature of iOS is an incredibly huge stretch.

If you ask 10 iPhone users what the most fundamental feature of iOS was, you'd probably get 6 or 7 different answers.

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post #117

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Nokia and Motorola pulled the trigger. Everyone is responsible.

That's a separate battle. This is a new round in the war Steve Jobs started to destroy Android.

Doesn't matter what round it is, or ultimately who started. They are all acting like spoiled children.

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Does anybody else feel all the tech giants standing around with their patents in hand is like all the characters standing around with guns like at the end of Reservoir Dogs? "Nobody innovate or we'll shoot!" It's intriguing at first, but you can only keep it up so long before the plot line gets annoying because no one is doing anything (or innovating), or someone gets shot.

I disagree. It's more about money than innovation. The non-copy arrangement that Microsoft & Apple have led to Windows Phone which I think most would agree is the most unique and maybe the most innovative platform. Would consumers be better off if Microsoft could have puked out an iOS/Android clone instead? Arguably Windows Phone as we know it may be suffering commercially because it is a departure from the iOS/Andro…

> Would consumers be better off if Microsoft could have puked out an iOS/Android clone instead?

No, and I'll tell you why: if Microsoft felt they could have made an UI that followed the new design language that is about to become canonical for smart phones, more consumers would be tempted to buy Windows Phones. If Microsoft were to make a comeback and become a dominant player it is 100% guaranteed to result in zero innovation. Microsoft NEVER innovates when in a dominant position.

So in a sense, Microsoft condemning themselves to irrelevance by having to desperately invent new designs that don't actually work IS good for the consumer. In a roundabout sort of way.

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post #88

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I disagree. It's more about money than innovation. The non-copy arrangement that Microsoft & Apple have led to Windows Phone which I think most would agree is the most unique and maybe the most innovative platform. Would consumers be better off if Microsoft could have puked out an iOS/Android clone instead? Arguably Windows Phone as we know it may be suffering commercially because it is a departure from the iOS/Andro…

What non-copy arrangement? AFAIK Microsoft and Apple have fairly broad cross-licensing agreements, and that some of the items that Apple has been suing Android for infringing are implemented on Windows Phone as well.

It seems to have emerged that:

1) Microsoft has a cross license deal with Apple. Samsung's license 'offer' from Apple included discounts when using licensed OSes and the example was MS provided OSes.

2) Said deal include terms requiring Microsoft to make products that aren't too similar to the iPhone although I'm not sure how that is defined.

Re: Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S.

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post #146

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That's a separate battle. This is a new round in the war Steve Jobs started to destroy Android.

Doesn't matter what round it is, or ultimately who started. They are all acting like spoiled children.

They're acting like big companies with huge legal war chests that will do what it takes to succeed in a very lucrative and important market.

The broken patent system has created all the wrong incentives here. Hopefully lawmakers will take notice and fix the problem and we won't have to go on bickering about the symptoms.

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