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Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

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Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

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Don't many phone users sync their phone contacts to Outlook and similar? So wouldn't this lead to "work email" contacts being caned by Facebook?

I just checked mine, but seems all my contacts only have phone numbers since I use Gmail and GApps web-only accounts.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

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user =/= customer

User = product If x service is making money off their product ( you , user) then you should really have at least some "rights". The key word being should .

If you aren't buying a product, you are the product.

That's worth drilling into your head.

Yes, that means that User = product from HN's perspective, but I am willing to bet it is a lot more of a complex connection than it is with facebook ;-)

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#143

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passwords for other sites Wait, seriously? People are using websites where the password reset emails are being sent from somebody's Droid phone? I think you've gotten a little carried away.

Ever seen sites with the ability to connect via Facebook? It often grants said site(s) with the user's Facebook primary-email. Now all personal emails, including password recoveries, are going through Facebook for said site(s).

I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario where a site would send some information via email but that same information would not be available to anyone logging in via the web interface. But whatever.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

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FB integration isn't coming until the fall - it is currently only available in developer builds of iOS 6.

iOS6 is still in Beta. be nice to see Apple haul Facebook through the hot coals (?) for this. anyone else think Apple and Facebook make interesting partners? They're both doing their best to get users into their own domains to the exclusion of all else

There's an important difference that I think you're eliding. People who use Apple devices and services, are Apple's customers; people who use Facebook services are Facebook's product. The former are not always treated ideally, but the money flows from them to Apple, so Apple is preoccupied with how to make their long-term experience better - e.g., to ensure that they'll continue to be disposed to give Apple money. The latter are digital sharecroppers, to use Atwood's phrase, and Facebook has repeatedly demonstrated that it doesn't give a shit about making their long-term experience better.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#146

Facebook simply doesn't have an ethical central core. They've shown over and over that when user privacy or security conflict with facebook's goals, they'll choose facebook over the user. It's always relatively subtle; they strive to only do what they can get away with...but it's always pushing the line, and is never based on trying to do what's right, merely avoiding backlash. Facebook, the company, is kind of a soc…

> I have several friends within facebook whom I like and respect, and they produce a lot of great technology. I find this idea interesting. Can an entity like a corporation have a life beyond that which is given to it by its employees? Like the ship of theseus, can you replace all employees and still have a business that "feels" the same?

Why not?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/73492989/Stephenson-1966-Cultural-...

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#147

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Lolz. Even a reasonable post gets downvoted. Now I'm just itching for downvotes. GIVE ME THEM.

I think you are being downvoted because none of your posts are reasonable or add to the discussion on HN. For example, you asked if all your posts must be erudite, and you believe that the obvious answer to your question is "no". Basically, when you can't even answer your own rhetorical questions correctly, then it's pretty much all downhill from there.

The problem with your response is that both reasonableness and 'adding to a discussion' are subjective concepts. Another comment of mine adds nothing to the discussion, IMO, but has on the order of 7 upvotes. That is in the thread of comments poking fun at Zuckerberg as a sort of sith lord. None of those are particularly thought-out arguments on FB's respect for its users; they are simply snarky insults of the Zuck.

So, if snarky insults are reasonable and add to the discussion, then why is any one of these comments considered differently? (again, a rhetorical question. also, yes i put 'answer' instead of 'question' in the previous comment. my brain got ahead of my fingers. I'm sure you've never done that before, as you are clearly one of the world's top minds).

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#148
Anyone else find it odd that the day the facebook email change scandal broke, they announced Sandberg was their first ever female on the board? Really looked like they had a distraction press release in the pipeline for exactly this scenario, and they popped the top as soon as there was backlash.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#149

Facebook simply doesn't have an ethical central core. They've shown over and over that when user privacy or security conflict with facebook's goals, they'll choose facebook over the user. It's always relatively subtle; they strive to only do what they can get away with...but it's always pushing the line, and is never based on trying to do what's right, merely avoiding backlash. Facebook, the company, is kind of a soc…

> I have several friends within facebook whom I like and respect, and they produce a lot of great technology. I find this idea interesting. Can an entity like a corporation have a life beyond that which is given to it by its employees? Like the ship of theseus, can you replace all employees and still have a business that "feels" the same?

Of course. Work with any government bureaucracy and you'll notice it pretty quickly. Entire divisions can be filled with good, bright, well-meaning people, yet that division can still churn out crap work product. How is that? An organization's culture and the way incentives are aligned can quickly override any pockets of talented individuals.
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