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Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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It would not really make sense. CarPlay is just your phone using the car’s screen. How would you do that for one app and nothing else?

> CarPlay is just your phone using the car’s screen Then why does iOS warn me that my car will receive data from my phone when enabling car play? Does this just mean the screen, or does it get the texts/calls too?

Not sure on what exactly this is referring to, but I know contact names are exposed, at least when there’s an active phone call. My vehicle shows the contact’s name on the driver display (which CarPlay doesn’t control)

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Non-citizens don't have a right to cross the border.

Yeah but it doesn't mean that anal cavity search is necessary

As opposed to a cavity search in the mouth? They aren't dentists.

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Bad ruling that will be overturned on appeal. The government has a 100% absolute right and responsibility to control what's coming across the border. That's been the common law since King Narmer. In law school, it's common to skip these cases for time and have the professor summarize the caselaw as "you have no rights at border."

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Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Which countries do you think have better rights regimes than the US? Ie which countries _are_ you willing to travel to?

I live in the Schengen area. So I can travel to all countries in the Schengen area by just carrying a government id without any regular border controls. (Yes, there are countries that have broken the rules of the treaty.) In general I am very skeptical about the concept of citizenship. It's an instrument of discrimination.

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Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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It would not really make sense. CarPlay is just your phone using the car’s screen. How would you do that for one app and nothing else?

Oddly enough, there are screen-sharing and/or remote-display protocols which ... are limited to sharing screen-drawing properties and aren't wholesale data vacuums. X11 and remote desktop come particularly to mind. Several of those can be limited to specific applications, e.g., by setting the $DISPLAY value (X11). For remote desktop that's a bit more challenging but can be managed to an extent using Group Policy sett…

It is not screen sharing… It is more like plugging a monitor on a laptop. It’s exactly how the phone does it under the hood: it’s a secondary display.

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Can you clarify which laws and opinions you have in mind?

Many examples abound. Don't be lazy and do a google search. Granted, many of those opinions that create grounds for legal sanction in the EU are disagreeable ones, but that's how freedom of expression as a real right works, it applies to the shit you don't like or want to hear, not just socially condoned opinions.

> don't be lazy

You, too. This is not helping you get your point across, which I'm assuming was the reason you wrote your comment.

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

#147

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Non-citizens don't have a right to cross the border.

Yeah but it doesn't mean that anal cavity search is necessary

Given your username, this seems an especially sensitive topic for you.

In what part of the article or thread to which you commented asserted a "necessary" anal cavity search?

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Then your visa will be denied and case closed.

Imagine if it were actually one of your social media handles , though [what I wrote above]. Just as example, I'm one of those weirdos with the vehicle tag "No Plate" — never received anything but laughs from police officers.

You should change your license plate to

' OR 1=1; DROP TABLE licenses; --

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Yeah but it doesn't mean that anal cavity search is necessary

Given your username, this seems an especially sensitive topic for you. In what part of the article or thread to which you commented asserted a "necessary" anal cavity search?

Make an account...Wait 4 months for the correct subject to come along....

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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The US absolutely does grant full constitutional rights to noncitizens who are physically inside the US, excepting only those inherently tied to US citizenship. (Those are surprisingly few - there is actually not even an explicit right to vote stated in the US constitution, but certainly it is constitutional that noncitizens are not generally allowed to vote). At border checkpoints on US soil, the border search excep…

That sounds too good to be true. I neither have the legal skills nor the knowledge about the US constitution to tell you where it's incorrect. I occasionally read the AMA of the immigration lawyer here on HN just for curiosity. I have no intention whatsoever to work in the US, but my impression is that many aspects of visa system sound like treating foreigners as shit in real life. Weird rules, lack of resources, in…

There are indeed many things about the US system that treat foreigners as shit with respect to visa access. But none of that is about giving fewer constitutional rights to foreigners who are physically inside the US.

Visas only control the permission to travel to the US and to apply for admission at a port of entry, and all visa applications and decisions happen while the people taking the action are outside the US. (Visas are only formally applied for at the visa interview, which is never conducted in the US, and visa denials are also issued by the relevant US embassy or consulate abroad and not by the Washington-based part of the State Department.)

The continued legality of anyone’s status within the US following a legal entry does not depend on their visa remaining valid or unexpired. Even if their visa is revoked while they are in the US, that itself only affects future entries, although other actions might of course be taken by the government in parallel.

Importantly, the right to be allowed to enter or remain in the US is one of the constitutional rights that only exists for citizens, no different from most countries. I did say that those few rights which are inherent to citizenship don’t apply to foreigners inside the US. Again, I know of no country in the world which gives foreigners a right to enter and remain, except for conditional rights for specific nationalities like with EU freedom of movement.

Here are two examples of how foreigners have more (and approximately full) rights while inside the US:

Foreigners in the US have far more due process rights if the federal government starts a factually or legally unjustified removal proceeding against them than if a visa officer abroad makes factual or legal errors when denying a visa. The former scenario can often be challenged in administrative, quasi-judicial, or actual judicial proceedings; the latter case has no remedy except to persuade the State Department to change its mind.

If the US government sniffs the communications of two foreigners located within the US, they need a warrant under the same conditions as they would if the foreigners were citizens, unlike the case of purely external communications where the US government is only so constrained if they know a citizen is involved.

And so on.

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