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Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Which countries do you think have better rights regimes than the US? Ie which countries _are_ you willing to travel to?

Not OP but almost all of Europe comes to mind.

A continent where laws capable of sending you to prison for freely expressing certain opinions is your counter example to a lack of certain advanced individual rights in the U.S.

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

#92

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For Face ID, just close your eyes.

There’s no delay. If it even sees you as you are closing your eyes, it unlocks. My son and I just tested this.

However, if you never actually look at the phone it will not unlock it. It requires your "attention" to unlock. I believe this is a togglable setting.

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP but almost all of Europe comes to mind.

A continent where laws capable of sending you to prison for freely expressing certain opinions is your counter example to a lack of certain advanced individual rights in the U.S.

Can you clarify which laws and opinions you have in mind?

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

#94
post #34

They can still get your texts and contacts and call history from your car though. In many cars it syncs.

> They can still get your texts and contacts and call history from your car though. In many cars it syncs Source? If so, that's a privacy boon for CarPlay and Android Auto.

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Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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For the Hacker News members who are reflexively downvoting my comment, presumably for political reasons, I refer you to Riley vs. California, the 2014 SCOTUS decision that ruled warrantless searches of cell phones were unconstitutional: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/573/373/ The opinion was written by Roberts with a concurrence by Alito. Again, presumably, the 2024 court is likely to take an even a dimm…

Not for political reasons. It's because you're such a debaucherous womanizer! ;) https://www.historyoasis.com/post/benjamin-franklin-the-woma...

Hahaha, Franklin was the Original Horndog. His advice on choosing a mistress is a classic:

https://web.viu.ca/davies/H320/Franklin.advice.mistress.htm

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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post #93

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A continent where laws capable of sending you to prison for freely expressing certain opinions is your counter example to a lack of certain advanced individual rights in the U.S.

Can you clarify which laws and opinions you have in mind?

Didn't a former Greek finance minister recently get banned from Germany for political reasons? In France it is illegal to deny the holocaust but legal to deny the Armenian genocide.

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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Bad ruling that will be overturned on appeal.

The government has a 100% absolute right and responsibility to control what's coming across the border. That's been the common law since King Narmer.

In law school, it's common to skip these cases for time and have the professor summarize the caselaw as "you have no rights at border."

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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post #22

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You can't apply the law retroactively. The law, despite being unconstitutional, allowed this, so you can't go back and arrest people who weren't breaking the law at the time. What you can do is track back every arrest that resulted from one of these searches, and ask for all charges and convictions to be vacated/overturned because the evidence was collected in an unconstitutional way. I'm more interested in damage co…

> You can't apply the law retroactively. I don't know, it depends on their mood I guess? I'm unaware of the U.S. legal system specifically, but the Court of Justice of the European Union invalidated laws retroactively in the past. This isn't exclusive to EU laws either. My home country did the same thing with national laws. So I don't know, maybe the US can do that as well, but people just assume the US can't because…

Retroactively invalidating a law is different from retroactively applying a law to a date before its passing.

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

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post #85

It is amazing how the U.S. consistently gets away with this and is still perceived as a free country. In the 1980s the only border I knew where printed material was searched was the East German border. Back then the practice was considered outrageous.

In the post-9/11 world, whats the current status of "free" countries and how they vet people crossing the border?

Re: Courts Close the Loophole Letting the Feds Search Your Phone at the Border

#100
post #85

It is amazing how the U.S. consistently gets away with this and is still perceived as a free country. In the 1980s the only border I knew where printed material was searched was the East German border. Back then the practice was considered outrageous.

The US also asks for a list of social media accounts, which is creepy.

I've crossed the border hundreds of times and no one has ever asked me for my social media accounts.
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