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Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by datavirtue » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:10 PM UTC

CEOs are freaking out just trying to figure out how to attract and retain workers. Outside of Silly Valley this is the key issue. Well, that and chasing fads while trying to maintain business as usual while baby boomers retire. I listen to the CEO and read between the lines to decide what I should be doing in the company, including moving on. If I don't have confidence in their ability to negotiate the problems we are facing I just move on.

So far, most of the ramblings I have heard from CEOs sound like they have been reading too many articles. In other words, clueless.

I wish to fuck they would start chatting with AI more.

So many complaints about Gen Z, it is ridiculous. Gen X taught them not to invest themselves in the company too much. So we sit in the audience and just nod as they bitch about our kids wanting "a million dollars for nothing."

Most of these CEOs just need to retire, now.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by paulryanrogers » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:13 PM UTC

WWWMMMWWW wrote: post #4

There's also AI's dark secret coming out -> it's very expensive to run. But it's still WAY cheaper than upper management salaries, so, to employ classic MBA logic, they are the optimal staff to replace so as to maximize cost savings.

The number one axiom of MBA logic is climb as high on the pyramid as possible, always be the one at the top. It's right in the name: to be a master of business administration. So to be replaced by anyone or anything else would be to lose the only thing that matters: power.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by datavirtue » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:15 PM UTC

armada651 wrote: post #12

An AI won't replace the CEO, because the AI can't take responsibility and step down for decisions the board of directors made. Now having the AI replace the board of directors is a more interesting proposition...

You can have an AI make a decision alongside the CEOs and see which one is right. It's science.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by karasik-lawyer » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:15 PM UTC

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

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Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by paulryanrogers » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:16 PM UTC

WWWMMMWWW wrote: post #61

Voultapher wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Color me skeptical. The people making these decisions are not gonna cut their own jobs first, even if that made the most sense.

Step 1: the C-Suite sells out middle management in return for a bigger year end bonus. Step 2: the CEO sells out the rest of the C-Suite for an even bigger year end bonus. Step 3: the shareholders replace the CEO, promoting one of his now AI automated fellow C-suite, to maximize shareholder profit. It's corporate hunger games ... just without winners.

Can't boards protect CEO's? Boards are usually made up of other CEO's or their FFF's anyway.

Isn't that why was it so important that Altman purge the OpenAI board?

Or can shareholders bypass the board?

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by datavirtue » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:18 PM UTC

Brajeshwar wrote: post #18

The number of people believing that the primary job of the CEO is to "do" is too high. Actually, the primary job of a CEO is to take decisions with whatever information they have at their disposal. The decision may not always be right, but s/he should be able to make it within a certain timeframe. AI might likely do most of a CEO's "things to do," but the better CEOs are still going to be the ones who can take decisi…

It's the "information" part I'm worried about. Humans are biased and have many blind spots. Garbage in, garbage out.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by paulryanrogers » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:18 PM UTC

seydor wrote: post #86

Job titles arent set in stone. An AI Corporation may be end-to-end trained to "maximize profits, shareholder value and employee satisfaction", without any specific job titles. I 'd work for that AI

> I 'd work for that AI

Apparently only in a low level role that involves labeling, and likely not for long.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by mstolpm » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:21 PM UTC

idopmstuff wrote: post #102

boolit wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a critical insight. Whenever I ask an LLM about a topic I’m knowledgeable about, I can detect that it spews a load of nonsense. Talking to people in other fields, e.g., history and literature, they say it’s the same for them. LLMs are only useful if you know the topic you’re asking questions about. Otherwise, they generate so much nonsense that you cannot verify, that trusting it becomes a liability.

> LLMs are only useful if you know the topic you’re asking questions about. Not true, and you're missing a key point for the topic at hand. LLMs are useful if you know the topic OR if you have measurable outcomes. If you want to increase sales, and you ask an LLM how to increase sales, you will know if its ideas work if they result in increased sales. Think of it like AlphaGo - it learned to play Go by playing with a…

But I would only know about the result for my sales in some weeks or months. I have to trust the LLM in the meantime - and your example implies that the LLM answer could be proven wrong. How is that different from asking a complete stranger about better sales strategies for my business? Or even throw a dice?

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by vessenes » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:31 PM UTC

sarchertech wrote: post #65

vessenes wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're very wrong about this timeline. 1. I've never sourced hardware, so I can't comment directly on manufacturers. I have done plenty of business in Asia, and, I have purchased from alibaba. One side of those alibaba transactions is definitely using AI translation already. I don't think manufacturers in Asia will care at all "who" is sourcing product from them. For speccing a car - sure, you're right that a…

$1000 to the charity of your choice that this isn’t available in any generalizable way before 2030.

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Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by dasil003 » Sun, Jun 02, 2024, 3:38 PM UTC

Wow, this is some ultimate clickbait, combining peak AI hype with timely economic concerns as well as the evergreen hatred of bad bosses.

The fact that articles like this get traction is ironically exactly why an AI can’t be a good CEO—picking a popular next token is worthless if not backed by some reasoning and organizational structure to benefit the business. It’s a trope that CEOs are out of touch with the ground reality faced by the rank and file, but what’s less obvious is that the majority is also pretty ignorant about the inner workings of executive leadership. There’s just not enough data there to train an AI as everything written down is very carefully wordsmithed, and depends on context from thousands of private conversations, many of them full of controversial and contradictory points. The things an AI would emit based on this input would cause open rebellion and shareholder lawsuits in a heart beat.