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Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by Hayatabad »

wkat4242 wrote: post #41
xbmcuser wrote: post #12

The amount of human knowledge available today on youtube I think nothing will ever come close as apart from formal knowledge we have millions of small hacks improvements that would probably not been written down but have been recorded. If you are dedicated enough today you can go from being a novice to being quite proficient in 100s of different things. And every day the knowledge keeps increasing as well as improvin…

I think there is much more information on the internet in written format though. Which I personally find a lot more accessible as well. I always find video really slow and not very information dense, I don't have the patience for it. I get frustrated with the slow delivery whereas I can consume written text at my own speed. Skipping video works of course but I constantly have to "resync" my mind after a skip which ha…

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Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by Paradigma11 »

ReleaseCandidat wrote: post #46
wkat4242 wrote: post #41

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I think there is much more information on the internet in written format though. Which I personally find a lot more accessible as well. I always find video really slow and not very information dense, I don't have the patience for it. I get frustrated with the slow delivery whereas I can consume written text at my own speed. Skipping video works of course but I constantly have to "resync" my mind after a skip which ha…

> I always find video really slow and not very information dense That always depends on the actual "information". Some stuff is "better" in written form, other things need audio and for other video is neccesary. Trivial thing is needing audio to e.g. hear music (yes, even if I can read musical notation) or pronunciation, intonation and accentuation of words or videos of physical "movement" in sports, crafts and art (…

I agree but there is one thing I do love about programming videos. It shows you every step of the way. In written information very often some "obvious" steps are left out or forgotten which will cost you a few hours to get right.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by alkonaut »

lupusreal wrote: post #122
alkonaut wrote: post #115

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If someone mentions a TV show and I search for it, there will be 100 reviews of the show, 1000 short clips of the show. Try yourself: think of a TV show that was big in the last 10 years, then search for it on YouTube. Whether or not the actual content is ON youtube (which is the question my search is trying to answer) you'll get thousands of search results. In the off chance that the actual content of the show is ac…

On the page for a channel, click the Videos 'tab' to see list of the channels videos ordered by most recent.

Doesn’t look like the big broadcasters/news sites want me to use YouTube “as TV” judging by what I see. It’s just clips not programs. BBC for example has some news stories but no news broadcasts.

The curation is what I want. A big important story should take more time of the broadcast. I don’t want to choose what story I’m interested in I want someone to do it for me. That’s the difference between a news program and a set of N 3 minute news stories.

It’s like the difference between an rss feed and a newspaper. A big point of the newspaper is they decide what space to give everything and what to put on the front page. You can’t meaningfully understand the world by reading an rss even with the same articles, because a key insight is knowing what the big story is in the sense of what other people have seen.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by shahar2k »

toofy wrote: post #44
dacryn wrote: post #27

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There are two modes of watching TV in my opinion: intentional and casual Intentional: look for a certain show/movie, e.g. the weekly episode of House MD, Lost, Friends, HBO, ... -> This is the streaming war between Netflix, HBO, Disney, ... Casual: You turn on the tv with the aim to just browse around and relax, and get something accidentally interesting/amusing -> Youtube is king and more or less the only option her…

omg nebula is incredible. i just subbed like 2 months ago and i feel like ive been guzzling from a firehouse.

nebula really is the best of youtube! I've subscribed for a while but recently went for their lifetime subscription (I know it's not a "deal" I just want to support those creators')

a friend is actually a creator there! speaks very well about them

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by krisoft »

alkonaut wrote: post #115
krisoft wrote: post #97

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> I just want to watch shows/films/content that I heard people recommend to me (not algorithms - people). How do you even start doing that on youtube? I don’t understand your question. You talk with people you care about, they tell you what they recommend and then you use the search bar to locate the content and watch it. This is so obviously the answer to your question that I am worried I am misunderstanding you in…

If someone mentions a TV show and I search for it, there will be 100 reviews of the show, 1000 short clips of the show. Try yourself: think of a TV show that was big in the last 10 years, then search for it on YouTube. Whether or not the actual content is ON youtube (which is the question my search is trying to answer) you'll get thousands of search results. In the off chance that the actual content of the show is ac…

> Try yourself: think of a TV show that was big in the last 10 years, then search for it on YouTube.

I did. I thought of "Breaking Bad". Searched for it. There are indeed many reviews and shorts, and on the side of the search result in a separate box I see the official show with a big "buy" button. Apparently I can buy the first season for £10.49.

> In the off chance that the actual content of the show is actually on YouTube, the odds that you'll get the episodes of the show in your search result in any sensible order seems like zero.

Not for me. It is all organised neatly into seasons. I can buy individual episodes or whole seasons.

> But if you pick one (say CNN) and go to their page on YouTube, you can see a list of clips. But the clips seem randomly selected and unordered a a week old. So there is no way I can play their "news"? At least not at first sight.

Not in my experience? I typed "CNN" into the search bar and it displayed a big box on top of the organic results saying "Latest from CNN" with the latest video uploads of theirs in order.

When I click on the CNN channel it indeed shows various programmes CNN has. If I want to see their latest videos I need to click on the tab "Videos". It can be ordered "latest", "most popular" and "oldest" where "latest" is the default for me.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by sph »

mobilemidget wrote: post #114
sph wrote: post #87

I enjoy paying and watching Youtube Premium on my TV (through a sideloaded app), but whenever I open the official app on my iPad, I am bombarded with Shorts, every search I make returns clickbait, unrelated content among the real results and that annoys me so much I keep thinking I should stop giving Youtube any money. Google, the bloody search engine company, keeps making sure that every search I make about video ga…

Besides the regular gaming content on twitch there is a bunch of weird stuff. I noticed there is this ASMR type content where people lick plastic ears in front of a microphone. The amount of views they get, concurrent streams was mind boggling for me. But regarding 'sexy' content they recently made some policy updates, they initially hammered down on such content, but I think it hurted their income stream. https://sa…

Twitch has become a soft-core porn website. But it's easy to avoid. Youtube blatantly promoting clickbait videos, injecting them into search results, with no way to tune the recommendations is worse.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by alkonaut »

krisoft wrote: post #147
alkonaut wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone mentions a TV show and I search for it, there will be 100 reviews of the show, 1000 short clips of the show. Try yourself: think of a TV show that was big in the last 10 years, then search for it on YouTube. Whether or not the actual content is ON youtube (which is the question my search is trying to answer) you'll get thousands of search results. In the off chance that the actual content of the show is ac…

> Try yourself: think of a TV show that was big in the last 10 years, then search for it on YouTube. I did. I thought of "Breaking Bad". Searched for it. There are indeed many reviews and shorts, and on the side of the search result in a separate box I see the official show with a big "buy" button. Apparently I can buy the first season for £10.49. > In the off chance that the actual content of the show is actually on…

When I look at CNN’s or BBC’s latest it’s not tv-broadcasts it’s just uncutated clips. To use that for TV replacement seems painful. (If by TV we mean watching something on a big screen without having to interact with it for a long while). The only way to watch clips that way would be to queue up a playlist of say ten 3 minute news bites but that still doesn’t tell me anything about their relative importance.

So what I’m looking for is the 30 minute broadcast where these clips are used, where a less important story (objectively! I don’t want personal content that defeats the point!) gets perhaps broadcast cut down to 10 seconds while the big headline clip gets the full 3 minutes. YouTube is the opposite of that. It’s trying to let me pick what I personally find interesting. But at least for news this is a completely useless idea most of the time. Perhaps some outlet publishes their “news at 6” type programs too?

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