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Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by anneessens »

LightHugger wrote: post #76
bberrry wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know it's silly but I sometimes feel anxiety at the prospect of that enormous bank of knowledge getting lost in some way or another (e.g. Google deciding it wants to do something else or some disaster). It is truly invaluable to _humanity_

youtube is doing it's best to now hobble search functionality on youtube, which is already a disaster from a discoverablity perspective. not to mention the huge amount of content that gets deleted due to claims of all kinda of nonsense and other bogus reports and faulty automated detection.

YouTube search is so frustrating to use. You search for a specific title, but instead you're usually shown vaguely related popular videos first, and then the actual video you want below those.

But what bothers me the most is that YouTube's data can't be fully indexed by search engines. Recently, I was trying to find the video of a comment I had a picture of, but it was impossible to find because comments aren't indexed at all. While Reddit's search also sucks for example, at least search engines can index Reddit's data and make it possible to search it.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by shiroiushi »

lynx23 wrote: post #58

Not just in the USA. YouTube is my only vvideo source. And to add insult to injury, local legislation has it that I have to pay 60E/month for the local, basically state-controlled TV/radio/news station, although I dont consume its content. YouTube, which is what I use daily, only costs about 1/6th of that. Oh, and there is only one democratic party against this practice. The far-right. All the others seem to love thi…

>The far-right. All the others seem to love this practice. Thank you democracy, you're useless.

If you poll the voters, and the non-far-right voters generally approve of this, then democracy is working as intended. Just because you don't like the results doesn't mean the majority of your countrymen don't.

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Post by flanked-evergl »

Jordan-117 wrote: post #19

I used to scoff at the idea of paying for YouTube, but I'd absolutely consider it if they had a cheaper plan that excluded YouTube Music.

I recently started paying for YouTube, it sucks way less without all the ads, and I generally feel I get my money's worth. I know I could technically use AdBlock or something, but it feels really nasty to do so. YouTube Music is okay, but I still use Spotify, as the interface of Spotify is better.

Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by mobilemidget »

sph wrote: post #87

I enjoy paying and watching Youtube Premium on my TV (through a sideloaded app), but whenever I open the official app on my iPad, I am bombarded with Shorts, every search I make returns clickbait, unrelated content among the real results and that annoys me so much I keep thinking I should stop giving Youtube any money. Google, the bloody search engine company, keeps making sure that every search I make about video ga…

Besides the regular gaming content on twitch there is a bunch of weird stuff. I noticed there is this ASMR type content where people lick plastic ears in front of a microphone. The amount of views they get, concurrent streams was mind boggling for me.

But regarding 'sexy' content they recently made some policy updates, they initially hammered down on such content, but I think it hurted their income stream.

https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Updating-our-Approach-to-...

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Post by alkonaut »

krisoft wrote: post #97
alkonaut wrote: post #80

Those who use youtube as TV, what do you watch? Is there a way of consuming YouTube that is more like consuming Netflix, where the 1% (or 0.001%) that is "professional" content is curated somehow? I mean I have no interest in scrolling videos of people eating detergent, I just want to watch shows/films/content that I heard people recommend to me (not algorithms - people). How do you even start doing that on youtube?…

> I just want to watch shows/films/content that I heard people recommend to me (not algorithms - people). How do you even start doing that on youtube? I don’t understand your question. You talk with people you care about, they tell you what they recommend and then you use the search bar to locate the content and watch it. This is so obviously the answer to your question that I am worried I am misunderstanding you in…

If someone mentions a TV show and I search for it, there will be 100 reviews of the show, 1000 short clips of the show. Try yourself: think of a TV show that was big in the last 10 years, then search for it on YouTube. Whether or not the actual content is ON youtube (which is the question my search is trying to answer) you'll get thousands of search results. In the off chance that the actual content of the show is actually on YouTube, the odds that you'll get the episodes of the show in your search result in any sensible order seems like zero.

Another example: a huge use of TV is news. Every big news outlet has a presence on YouTube. But if you pick one (say CNN) and go to their page on YouTube, you can see a list of clips. But the clips seem randomly selected and unordered a a week old. So there is no way I can play their "news"? At least not at first sight.

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Post by [deleted] »

tracker1 wrote: post #99
ishanAhuja wrote: post #43

Stunning that they don't invest more in their TV apps, especially the Apple TV app. Their single-row horizontal scroll UI is so frustrating.

Not sure on that... Amazon prime is pretty atrocious. Similar for Netflix anymore. And the CBS/Paramount TV app won't work right at all with my pihole blocking their tracking service. WTH. It wouldn't take much for Rumble to do better, but it seems like the TV app experience is such a minimal priority for them. Max was decent and so was Discovery... Since the merger both are worse and they aren't even merged. Just wo…

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Post by ArunRaja »

scarab92 wrote: post #90
dacryn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just caused me to stop paying for Spotify. Spotify is clearly better, but Youtube music is really 'good enough'

Same. Isn’t this behaviour exactly what got Microsoft in anti-trust hot water?

Single instance of bundling two crossover apps (read as Youtube and Yt music) is different from Microsoft bundling every kind of apps on its platform, with frugal dev support.

Nobody is stopping Spotify to bundle with another video app or create one themselves.

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Post by Timshel »

_dark_matter_ wrote: post #98
Timshel wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want any recommandation subscription is needed. I use multiple profile to separate things like more learning focused vs gaming or whatever. Never watch a silly random video in one of those profile.

This sounds like an exhausting amount of work for a paid product

Containers on Firefox make it quite trivial I can have all those side by side.

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Post by lupusreal »

alkonaut wrote: post #80

Those who use youtube as TV, what do you watch? Is there a way of consuming YouTube that is more like consuming Netflix, where the 1% (or 0.001%) that is "professional" content is curated somehow? I mean I have no interest in scrolling videos of people eating detergent, I just want to watch shows/films/content that I heard people recommend to me (not algorithms - people). How do you even start doing that on youtube?…

Youtube is a mirror, it shows you more of what you watch (at least most of the time.) If you can't resist the temptation of clicking on clickbait/trash, it will show more of that to you.

How to use youtube:

1. Log out, clear your cookies or clear your watch history.

2. Turn off autoplay.

3. Search for a few high quality videos/channels you have seen before, to seed the recommendation algorithm. I use the "Applied Science" channel for this but you use what suits you.

4. Never click on clickbaity trash.

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