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We’ve had consumer VR headsets on the market for 8 years now (Oculus Rift CV1). Why would apps suddenly start appearing now, what makes Apple so different?
People actually spend money on the App Store.
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#142"It’s a V1 Apple product. It’s a new category, for them, and by far the most ambitious headset on the consumer market." Well, all other V1 Apple products weren't half-assed, or at least when they were, they offered something more than the competitors. Meta Quest 3 is better on everything, despite eye tracking(for a reason, it sucks for many things, I'm sure Meta can have just as good, if they wanted to, but they like…
> "It’s a V1 Apple product. It’s a new category, for them, and by far the most ambitious headset on the consumer market." And it is priced out of the consumer market by a factor of 10. Also, the developer program is not interesting.
What does this mean? Most developers I know are interested because of a technology or a product. What does the program need to be doing?
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#143Five grand is insane.
Meta has huge return rates on their headsets, which is a big reason for their 30 billion loses on it so far.
At $3500, people will play with these Apple units and return them. I can't guess what their return rate will be in terms of numbers, but I know it will be shocking.
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#145>2.It’s not there yet >3.It’s not useful >4.It’s very expensive Are any of these surprising? I'm a AR/VR skeptic so maybe I have a more negative view than most but these things seem self evident to me.
It's not just pure nonsense or "not ready for consumers" yet. For people using VR daily, it is entirely good enough for their use cases, and they have useful use cases (even if "useful" means "entertainment").
But I would agree that very very few people need it and trying to get it mainstream where "this is how everyone is consuming media" is a bit outlandish.
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A PCIe/NVME adapter costs $10 on Amazon.
To USB you mean? The cheap ones only do 10gbps, not even a quarter of the speed a PCIe4 drive is capable of. 40gbps adapters are up in the ~$100 range.
[0] https://www.amazon.com/M-2-Adapter-Aluminum-Heatsink-Solutio...
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#147"It’s a V1 Apple product. It’s a new category, for them, and by far the most ambitious headset on the consumer market." Well, all other V1 Apple products weren't half-assed, or at least when they were, they offered something more than the competitors. Meta Quest 3 is better on everything, despite eye tracking(for a reason, it sucks for many things, I'm sure Meta can have just as good, if they wanted to, but they like…
> Apple made it clear to me that they've released this device mostly out of fears of phones becoming irrelevant and not having a device to replace it. Wait, people think this thing is going to replace a phone ? I can't imagine...
The second big path is the it's just a pair of glasses you wear use case, where you just always have it on, since it's literally just a pair of glasses, that can also send information to you, much like what the MIT wearables project has been playing with for decades now.
Will Apple move towards this second future? I don't know, certainly the tech is nowhere near that ability and still be "spatial computing" or AR or whatever you want to call it, but if they can figure out how to shove high-quality digital projections onto a pair of glasses, I can't imagine them ignoring that market, because that is what will replace the phone and probably watch.
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To USB you mean? The cheap ones only do 10gbps, not even a quarter of the speed a PCIe4 drive is capable of. 40gbps adapters are up in the ~$100 range.
The description[0] states: "Compliant with PCIE 4.0 X4 80Gbps full speed support." But I suppose it could be inaccurate. [0] https://www.amazon.com/M-2-Adapter-Aluminum-Heatsink-Solutio...
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Why offer different storage SKUs at all? Just include the larger amount and bump the price by $30 or whatever.
I assumed it was a yield issue - because everything is on package now