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Re: Infinite Craft

#141
post #87

Bug report: I got to 'Mega Mega Mega Mega Mega Mega Mega Mega Mega Mega' and it can't be combined with anything

I believe most LLM APIs prevent you from repeating (or asking to repeat) identical words. It's in ChatGPT's TOS (because it seems to occassional lead to revealing original training text). Either that or the backend is completely overloaded and/or unable to handle more than ten of somethings.

It looked like an UI issue of some sort. It didn’t even try to merge.

Re: Infinite Craft

#142
post #139

This shows quite well that AI has zero common sense whatsoever, the results of most combinations I made are just nonsense. The associations are really vague and to me it is not interesting at all to look at random pictures and words appearing out of totally unrelated stuff. I really like man-made alchemy games though where all combinations are pre-defined and actually feel right.

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Re: Infinite Craft

#144
post #139

This shows quite well that AI has zero common sense whatsoever, the results of most combinations I made are just nonsense. The associations are really vague and to me it is not interesting at all to look at random pictures and words appearing out of totally unrelated stuff. I really like man-made alchemy games though where all combinations are pre-defined and actually feel right.

One person's specific usage of AI, in a specific game, where the AI was constrained to only coming up with words that have an associated emoji, is not a referendum on whether or not AI itself has common sense. That's like saying paint is boring because someone made a crappy painting, or code is limited because someone made an app you don't like.

Re: Infinite Craft

#145
post #15

Was working on the very same idea alongside a friend of mine, we happened to launch a few weeks ago. Quite a lot more fleshed out than Neal's version, if anyone wants to check it out! https://allchemy.io/ Edit: sorry if anyone is bumping into errors! We're running into bottlenecks with our supposedly auto-scaling database - working on it

I love it and agree with other commenters on animations. Any traction on subscriptions? I'm always curious if there's a biz model that works for this kind of game on web (besides ads). It's funny because I think you could absolutely sell it for $4.99 on the app store if you throw it in a native shell but I have a hard time imagining people paying for it in their browser. Would be happily surprised if that's not the case!

Re: Infinite Craft

#146

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Tree + Water = river was also pretty baffling. Unfortunate. I can see the appeal of using an LLM for this but the results are pretty mediocre.

Meh, what would be your great response to Tree + Water? A human can only generate a small fraction of the combinations and would have a hard time coming up with most combinations which are already nonsensical. What is your non-disappointing idea for, idk, Tears + Pottery (AI: Bowl) or Money + Salt Lick (AI: Cow) or Skull + Lake (AI: Loch Ness) or Dracula + Pirate (AI: Vampirate) or Curse + Money (AI: Debt)? Now do th…

Tree + Water is easy: Mangrove, Bald Cypress, Rhizophora, etc

Re: Infinite Craft

#147

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Neat. Campfire+sushi took about 10 seconds before it gave up and did not combine them.

The request looks like " https://neal.fun/api/infinite-craft/pair?first=Phoenix&secon... " so it's probably typically caching the combination of phoenix+seeds but if there is no cache entry it would use llama to make up something. If there's a lot of attention on the site the llm service might be down or overloaded. And given the exponential/factoral (?) amount of combinations this may be reached surprisingly quickly…

> But it is not engaging at all and feels nonsensical to me, especially when compared to little alchemy https://littlealchemy2.com/.

On the other hand, Little Alchemy doesn't have answers to the most basic combinations. Air + Earth = Dust, but Dust doesn't combine with Water. Earth + Water = Mud, but Mud doesn't combine with Air. Earth + Earth = Land, but Land doesn't combine with Fire.

It may be more sensical since it limits combinations to 0.01% of what's possible, but I don't think that makes it more interesting.

Re: Infinite Craft

#148
post #4

I don't get it; maybe it's broken in my browser. I can drag 4 types of items to a floating grid that connects them but then nothing happens. EDIT: Ah, you drag items on top of each other for them to change. Instructions unclear, and I am dumb.

You can just click / tap on 2 items consecutively, without drag and drop.

Re: Infinite Craft

#150

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Meh, what would be your great response to Tree + Water? A human can only generate a small fraction of the combinations and would have a hard time coming up with most combinations which are already nonsensical. What is your non-disappointing idea for, idk, Tears + Pottery (AI: Bowl) or Money + Salt Lick (AI: Cow) or Skull + Lake (AI: Loch Ness) or Dracula + Pirate (AI: Vampirate) or Curse + Money (AI: Debt)? Now do th…

Tree + Water is easy: Mangrove, Bald Cypress, Rhizophora, etc

I wouldn't consider those to be better. You're enhancing the tree side of the equation but gave no examples of the water side.

And why didn't you do the rest of my examples? ;)

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