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Patients say keto helps with mental illness. Science is racing to understand why

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Re: Patients say keto helps with mental illness. Science is racing to understand why

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Yes, I agree with most of what you say. I'm sorry if my comment came across as aggressive. I didn't want to offend anybody. And of course, if you've got a gluten allergy regular bread won't work for you. I know that nutrition is not a one-size-fits-all thing. But you also have to agree that there are many keto snake oil salesmen. > keto doesn't work because people believe in quick fixes, it PROBABLY works because you…

i have the impression nutrition is a bit like religion. the right way, i.e. what a "balanced diet" means is heavily depends on the country you grew up in and how your parents did it. either this or you join a cult and swear by the one diet ... religulously. thus critizicing one's diet is like saying: "your religion is trash", which is, not surprisingly, usually not taken well be the other. in my experience, a healthy…

> so it's technically less about the quality of the food (i.e. how healthy your meal ingredients are) and more about feeling satiated long enough to not go crazy from hunger pangs between meals.

This is clearly not backed by science. It's clear that humans need a certain set and quantity of micro nutrients, macro nutrients, minerals and vitamins.

Now, of course, food is not the only factor determining your health. So there are people who only eat french fries and smoke and live to be a hundred, and there are people who eat a balanced diet, work out every day and then die from cancer with 40. But it's all about probabilities. Eating a balanced, whole food diet decreaes your all-cause mortality. And this is not religion, this is science.

Now, of course, every body is different and not nutrition is complicated and not that well-understood on an individual level. And yes, if you have a allergies or other types of reactions to certain foods that are considered healthy in general, you should not eat them.

Re: Patients say keto helps with mental illness. Science is racing to understand why

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Me too. What gave you that impression it would be a reasonable interpretation of what I posted, or are you just trolling?

From your own quote: > They do have canines that are pointy enough to serve the purpose of tearing meat.

Yep, that is an observation. Humans do have canines.

But I asked you, how do you end up turning the above statement about the modern human into:

> I'd really like to see a human try to tear raw flesh off an animal with their canines. I am highly skeptical that would work at all.

I didn't suggest humans walked around tearing off raw meat. However, our ancestors probably did at some point.

Since our ancestors tamed the fire about 2 million years ago, we have started cooking using fire, which changed our anatomy.

Re: Patients say keto helps with mental illness. Science is racing to understand why

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Me too. What gave you that impression it would be a reasonable interpretation of what I posted, or are you just trolling?

If that is not a reasonable interpretation then what are you trying to say? Humans are meant to eat meat but are physically incapable of performing the same actions that other meat eating animals can?

So being highly skeptical when pointed to mountains of evidence is the reasonable conclusion?

Perhaps I just can't express myself.

There is nothing controversial here, unless you are wildly disagreeing with evolution.

Re: Patients say keto helps with mental illness. Science is racing to understand why

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From your own quote: > They do have canines that are pointy enough to serve the purpose of tearing meat.

Yep, that is an observation. Humans do have canines. But I asked you, how do you end up turning the above statement about the modern human into: > I'd really like to see a human try to tear raw flesh off an animal with their canines. I am highly skeptical that would work at all. I didn't suggest humans walked around tearing off raw meat. However, our ancestors probably did at some point. Since our ancestors tamed the…

Early hominins did not have physical adaptations like large canines or claws like carnivorous animals do. So how far back do we need to go? Gorillas have giant canines. They don't eat meat.

Re: Patients say keto helps with mental illness. Science is racing to understand why

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> It's certainly not the easiest diet to adhere to, it's also surely not the best for the environment I'm able to sustain keto when using Huel Black (17% carbs), but your mileage may vary. And Huel is both vegan and sustainable. (I'm not affiliated, just a user)

What source does huel black use for D12?

Do you mean B12?
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