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Portal 1 is the game that made me realize I get motion sickness from first person games. It really caught me by surprise. Amazing game though, 10/10 would do it again.
Play the native N64 port, it's hilariously fun
Half-Life: 25th Anniversary Documentary [video]
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Re: Half-Life: 25th Anniversary Documentary [video]
#142So, this begs a rather obvious question. What makes that team different? Is it the talent, the leadership, the focus on product? As a long time JavaScript developer I honestly believe, and I really mean this, that maybe 4% of the people employed primarily doing JavaScript work actually know what they are doing. Just 4%. It seems at the beginning many of the early Valve team had a lot of passion but almost no real exp…
1. Hacker-tinkerer culture, where you want to build new things that haven't been built on new hardware for fundamentally non-commercial reasons. This could be called Carmack-style hacker culture in my mind, which produced Quake.
2. Genuinely extensive programming expertise.
3. Not partaking in the current and quite toxic VC-funded game development culture, where funding dictates rushed deliverables (through schedules, and the constant race to attract funding with demos). It's feature factory or die in a lot of VC-funded scale-ups.
4. Lucky circumstances - knowing someone who could get you Quake source on "just have it, we'll work something out eventually" terms back then was exceptionally lucky. Quake was very far ahead of it's time. Most companies that produce such work now would work very hard to make sure no one else gets it. And that goes back to the hacker culture of just building cool things to share with people that was more common in games then.
5. Time - the games industry was young, before Quake there were no proper 6 DoF generalist 3D game engines, so it was an auspicious time for game development.
I'm a game developer and I am a bit old school, so I'm not the best person to speculate on why JavaScript programmers seem less able to build cool tech. But I have seen many young people approach programming differently now, probably because it has become a lot more commodified. The mindset of a "clock-in clock-out" programmer wasn't common in game circles in the 90s and 00s. Also, there was much less focus on using "correct" idioms and beautiful code as the end goal in hacker circles, and a lot more focus on building something that others haven't built before and working out the details later. Moreover, business viability was rarely the first thing you would think about and work backwards from when you worked on a game project. Business success was a byproduct of building cool games.
If you would remember game trailers from early 00s, like Half-Life 2 (since we are talking about Valve), you would pick up that they show off cool tech like physics simulation, which is quite janky and imperfect. Carmack also has spoken many times about how in his early games (pre-Quake) the graphics would initially be quite bad and he would be worried about getting everything fixed in time. Cool over safe, cool over perfect, and showing off cool things that were not polished was normal.
Nowadays, things are different in some ways. The game development has become methodical and focused on the exploitation of passion for money in a repeatable way. You get as many features as you can for marketing (you only need to have them, they can be whatever quality, it's only for the Steam page and trailer). You cut all the awesome new things as they are a risky waste of money, you instead funnel all the passion into velocity for delivering that bundle of features as quickly as possible for as cheap as possible, and that's it. If you can strike a deal with a nice IP, that will make the game sell a lot more. So will striking a deal with a publisher with deep pockets for marketing. But the "do cool things" hacker culture is gone in AAA and blockbuster games. It's now relegated to indies where quite a lot of janky but incredibly cool games are made. But they have a funding access problem as their business is too risky for most publishers and VCs. And that's probably why we don't see many new and big id and Valve-type companies anymore.
Although with VR, there are some companies that I believe could be like that. And they attract senior talent quite well. With the right management and timing, I think we could see another Valve in VR. Even Carmack played a big role in VR until recently, before he moved on to the next new thing in tech. Being on the precipice of new tech is important for people of that culture.
Re: Half-Life: 25th Anniversary Documentary [video]
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He is talking about first-person shooters. If you had a taste for a certain kind of game in the late 90s you didn't have many choices that were done by a full studio and polished. Most of the games you listed had the same "problem" of being unparalleled at the time. Now you have a lot of clones of the same idea, plus so many of the classics are still replayable or remastered and rereleased. A good-but-not-great game…
Unreal, Quake 2, Jedi Knight, System Shock 2, SiN, Blood 2, Hexen 2, Rainbow Six, Turok 1 & 2. There were a number of great FPS games available at the time.
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Goldeneye was developed by Rare, who had been in existence for 10 years by the time Goldeneye was released. I'd be really surprised if they had landed the rights to a big IP and then turned a bunch of newbies loose on it.
The 90s were a very different time my friend, prepare to be really surprised ! https://youtu.be/3AEvEIYzMbU?si=S5NDh1874vsE72Kl?t=8m28s This is video is a wider retrospective about the game that I think is worth watching, but I linked to a clip in it from a GDC talk given by the games director. Where he states himself that only he and one other goldeneye 007 team member “had ever made a game before”
Re: Half-Life: 25th Anniversary Documentary [video]
#145So, this begs a rather obvious question. What makes that team different? Is it the talent, the leadership, the focus on product? As a long time JavaScript developer I honestly believe, and I really mean this, that maybe 4% of the people employed primarily doing JavaScript work actually know what they are doing. Just 4%. It seems at the beginning many of the early Valve team had a lot of passion but almost no real exp…
Most developers probably don't care and just want to get paid. Beyond that, I imagine you're not usually empowered to make big changes unless you're relatively senior, and even if you decide to be the kind of developer that's always striving towards self improvement your job is unlikely to reward you for your skill development. I think there's just a lot of diminishing returns. Have you ever tried playing a competiti…
Bingo. I got a release coming up, I just need to ship this -- ain't got no time for fancy stuff, and higher-ups don't want fancy or flourish, just make it work. And even if there is room for trying something new, it probably doesn't matter if the users DGAF about the new feature.
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Because technically, they didn't. As they say in the documentary, the version of the game that they made after the first year or so was bad, and they acknowledged it, and they changed their processes and introduced the "cabal" - so they basically paid that first year to gather experience. And what's important, their publisher Sierra was okay with it. I don't see that happening today, to be honest, in "AAA" titles at…
The problem is with these "AAA" games. I've spent a dozen years having great fun with perfectly enjoyable and memorable 7/10 games. Nowadays a 7/10 is a death sentence for a gaming studio. The industry is poisoned.
One of the most enjoyable games this year for me, and it says a lot (given how many amazing games of all kinds we got this year). And yet, it isn’t overly ambitious. Just overall, that’s pretty much the exact type of a game that you are talking about, which I’ve noticed we had an almost complete drought of over the past decade.
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I’m sure all these people were talented, but it reinforces my own belief that the most important things are passion and focus. I feel like the tech world fixates on 10x programmers like Carmack, but motivated people can pull off amazing things.
Carmack was the giant whose shoulders a lot of games - including Half-Life - stood on; I'd say he's a 100x or 1000x even, but then, engine developers are usually unknown and underrated. The work he did and what the Unreal engine now does is not to be underestimated.
As a testament to their (the original id software team that had both Johns) great efforts and legacy, they pretty much invented the concept of a game engine to start with. At that time, most games were written as a one and done type of a package deal.
Given that the team wanted to push the technical edge with the games consistently, they wanted to have some reusable/modifiable core that they could use across multiple projects, have visual level editors, etc., they converged on “accidentally” creating a game engine and coining that term. I forgot which game was the one that led to the creation of it for them, iirc it was one of the earlier Commander Keen games, but my memory might be failing me here. They didn’t even have the goal of creating a game engine, they just ended up getting there and then realizing what they did as they were trying to build their reusable “toolset.”
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There is a video somewhere where gaben is really self destructive about how half life 2 turned out and I think it's why we don't see half life 3 or any other new games - I think he's overly critical about his work. Watching this 25th documentary really felt like the team had a nostalgia trip making it and fond memories of the game. I wonder if the spark is gone with that teams weird dynamic.
That’s quite sad in a way; Half Life 2 is still an incredibly influential and beloved game 20 years later. Or is that maybe why? The weight of expectation is too great to live up to
And the leaked storyline for Episode Three looking really strong as well.
I hold out hope that the Crowbar Collective (the group that remade Half-Life with the Source engine and called it Black Mesa) have been secretly working on implementing the Episode Three storyline in Source. Though, now that Source2 is out who knows? This is all my speculation anyway.
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I swear I recall Martin stating that he had given the show-runners a conclusion to put in the show, but they bin'd it. The conclusion was a dumpster fire for so many issues, and it wasn't for lack of original content to derive from I'd argue.
And yet the books remain unwritten
I recalled correctly, he provided the showrunners with context, but they went largely ignored.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2019/05/11/george-rr-...