SumatraPDF is among the OSS PDF tools I use. Since Adobe is pushing a more aggressive stance for monetization of Acrobat, I am trying to replace selected PDF workflows with OSS. Here are some of the tools I use. qpdf removing passwords, unlocking PDFs, conversion install in WSL with apt-get install qpdf remove password with qpdf --decrypt --password="" input.pdf output.pdf PDF4QT - Open Source PDF Editing Deleting, S…
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#142Love SumatraPdf, completely no-bs software unlike Adobe. If I ever need to sign a PDF Microsoft Edge works wonderfully
I still need Adobe to sign and fill forms. Wish Sumatra can do those too :(
When we need to sign or view some complex documents then I'll use Acrobat.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
What changed exactly ? Gtk is still ugly on anything that is not Linux, Qt is still bloated and wxWidgets, well here I don’t know.
What does "Qt is bloated" even mean. It's a big framework, split into separate libraries, you include only what you use. Qt is free (most parts are LGPL) and is developed by 100+ professional developers. The quality of the implementations, API and documentation is very very good. Discarding it out of hand by "qt is bloated" just feels disingenuous to me. You can add to that the fact that qml on the desktop if finally…
From a user perspective I remember that being a big thing some time ago when people didn't have anything already using Qt installed did an “apt install” or “yum install” on something that did and saw the small tool they were wanting was going to drag half a desktop environment in with it as dependencies. The same could likely be said for GTK in reverse, I'm not sure what their relative sizes for similar features are these days.
Some use bloated to mean the memory footprint. IIRC GTK has more of a reputation for eating RAM than Qt, but again maybe people notice a single Qt app using a lot of resource (that would be shared if running multiple apps against the same libs) when it is the only one they run.
As you suggest, just stating that “ is bloated” without reference to some details of what is meant by that, sounds a bit like someone parroting old information and/or group-think rather than having looked into it recently.
Having said that the author has a minimal dependency stance in order to try to maintain a small footprint for the app (“I avoid unnecessary abstractions.” in the section about keeping things small) so any framework that isn't little more than a cosmetic wrapper could legitimately be called more bloated than using nothing at all and talking more directly to the standard OS libs. Also in context (discussing why the product is not cross-platform and is never likely to be) this is not the only reason being given and probably not the most significant one (there may be significant selection of cross-platform issues beyond the UI framework).
The key to a lot of what is in that document is the “It’s my project and I act like it” part. All too often we forget this very important side of things, especially with one-man or small-team projects, and people comment on project decisions as if using the product gives some automatic expectation that the creator will mould it around the needs/wants of a given user or someone's idea of “the community”. For an open source project the community has the option of forking the project or offering to fund the changes they want that aren't otherwise on the creator's roadmap (though obviously the larger the project, the less practical these options may be)…
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#144Wow, I just installed this for the first time and its performance blows both Adobe Reader (not an achievement) and Foxit (something of an achievement) out of the water! Nice work by these devs. And its install footprint is around 10% of those programs. What the hell is Adobe doing, I wonder, that makes their software so unbearably slow and painful to use?
What the hell is Adobe doing Probably supporting 100% of the PDF spec. plus addressing all those obscure feature requests that 6 companies in this one very niche industry really really need. Sumatra is fantastic and basically the only PDF reader I use on Windows, but it does have maybe 10% of the features Adobe acrobat has. It is however the 10% that that basically everybody needs.
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#145SumatraPDF is among the OSS PDF tools I use. Since Adobe is pushing a more aggressive stance for monetization of Acrobat, I am trying to replace selected PDF workflows with OSS. Here are some of the tools I use. qpdf removing passwords, unlocking PDFs, conversion install in WSL with apt-get install qpdf remove password with qpdf --decrypt --password="" input.pdf output.pdf PDF4QT - Open Source PDF Editing Deleting, S…
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
The spec is very complex. there are some, here and there but nothing coherent. Even worse PDF is not "open source", it should have been accompanied by LaTeX source.
The PDF is now standardized as ISO 32000, it's open for everyone to create compatible tools. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF
Re: SumatraPDF Reader
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
What changed exactly ? Gtk is still ugly on anything that is not Linux, Qt is still bloated and wxWidgets, well here I don’t know.
What does "Qt is bloated" even mean. It's a big framework, split into separate libraries, you include only what you use. Qt is free (most parts are LGPL) and is developed by 100+ professional developers. The quality of the implementations, API and documentation is very very good. Discarding it out of hand by "qt is bloated" just feels disingenuous to me. You can add to that the fact that qml on the desktop if finally…
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#148Bless the heart of whoever looked at the PDF spec and said to themselves, "Nice, I'd like to writer a parser for this."
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#149Is there any open source seamless PDF editor available given how pervasive is the PDF document nowadays? I really think that we need one and it has been long overdue. What I meant by seamless is that all of the open source software that currently able to edit PDF document is dong it in a clunky way at best for example Krita and LibreOffice Draw. The resulting edited output document also is also looks distinct, in a b…
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#150Is there any open source seamless PDF editor available given how pervasive is the PDF document nowadays? I really think that we need one and it has been long overdue. What I meant by seamless is that all of the open source software that currently able to edit PDF document is dong it in a clunky way at best for example Krita and LibreOffice Draw. The resulting edited output document also is also looks distinct, in a b…
Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but take a look at Stirling-PDF. https://github.com/Frooodle/Stirling-PDF
>This locally hosted web application started as a 100% ChatGPT-made application and has evolved to include a wide range of features to handle all your PDF needs