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Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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post #108

Great retrospective of SumatraPDF from the author: https://blog.kowalczyk.info/article/2f72237a4230410a888acbfc... .

> The problem is that Gtk is ugly, Qt is extremely bloated and WxWidgets barely works. Seems like the author didn't look at cross-platform toolkits since 90s.

What changed exactly ? Gtk is still ugly on anything that is not Linux, Qt is still bloated and wxWidgets, well here I don’t know.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Good example of how the implementation of unnecessary restrictions, without proper consideration of how such restrictions would impede users, can harm your product. I hope all software doing the same on android (safetynet, prevent screenshots, etc) follow Acrobat reader into irrelevance.

Exclusive locking is simply the default on Windows.

Sure, but for a viewer, deviating from that default makes a lot of sense.

I started using Sumatra years ago exclusively because of that feature. Exports/compiles failing, just because the PDF is still open somewhere is just unbelievably annoying.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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post #111
post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem is that Gtk is ugly, Qt is extremely bloated and WxWidgets barely works. Seems like the author didn't look at cross-platform toolkits since 90s.

What changed exactly ? Gtk is still ugly on anything that is not Linux, Qt is still bloated and wxWidgets, well here I don’t know.

Flutter is decent, most of the browser/Skia based UI kits are more consistent and made by people who have an appreciation for design and aesthetics. But I think Sumatra predates most, if not all of them.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Is there any open source seamless PDF editor available given how pervasive is the PDF document nowadays? I really think that we need one and it has been long overdue. What I meant by seamless is that all of the open source software that currently able to edit PDF document is dong it in a clunky way at best for example Krita and LibreOffice Draw. The resulting edited output document also is also looks distinct, in a b…

The spec is very complex. there are some, here and there but nothing coherent.

Even worse PDF is not "open source", it should have been accompanied by LaTeX source.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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post #108

Great retrospective of SumatraPDF from the author: https://blog.kowalczyk.info/article/2f72237a4230410a888acbfc... .

> The problem is that Gtk is ugly, Qt is extremely bloated and WxWidgets barely works. Seems like the author didn't look at cross-platform toolkits since 90s.

Honestly, this is a guy who uses GDI, so most of the above options will feel bloated already when looking at the source tarball sizes.

That said, has there been any fundamentally groundbreaking crossplatform classic UI toolkits released since the 90s? (IMGui is the only one that has seemed interesting but that's specialized and not a general one really)

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Is there any open source seamless PDF editor available given how pervasive is the PDF document nowadays? I really think that we need one and it has been long overdue. What I meant by seamless is that all of the open source software that currently able to edit PDF document is dong it in a clunky way at best for example Krita and LibreOffice Draw. The resulting edited output document also is also looks distinct, in a b…

Have you tried the latest version of OnlyOffice?

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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post #104

The big update of SumatraPDF was out yesterday [1]. There are a lot of bugs fix and improvement in the backlog [2]. [1] https://github.com/sumatrapdfreader/sumatrapdf/releases/tag/... [2] https://github.com/sumatrapdfreader/sumatrapdf/issues/3672

this is my "dark mode" via advanced options, e.g. warmer page and dark background: MainWindowBackground = #191919 FixedPageUI [ TextColor = #282828 BackgroundColor = #ebdbb2 SelectionColor = #2d938f ... ] what I have been doing so far is switch between other modes with autohotkey by overwriting `SumatraPDF-settings.txt`. I'd share the little script but it suddenly broke a while back

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Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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post #111
post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem is that Gtk is ugly, Qt is extremely bloated and WxWidgets barely works. Seems like the author didn't look at cross-platform toolkits since 90s.

What changed exactly ? Gtk is still ugly on anything that is not Linux, Qt is still bloated and wxWidgets, well here I don’t know.

What does "Qt is bloated" even mean. It's a big framework, split into separate libraries, you include only what you use. Qt is free (most parts are LGPL) and is developed by 100+ professional developers. The quality of the implementations, API and documentation is very very good.

Discarding it out of hand by "qt is bloated" just feels disingenuous to me. You can add to that the fact that qml on the desktop if finally maturing into a viable alternative for widgets, and UI development with qml is such a breath of fresh air.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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On the other side of the spectrum you have Calibre, a program that uses a multiplatform abstraction, with a myriad of options, a myriad of icons, plenty of features...

In my opinion, I prefer the Sumatra way of doing things. But if you need to transform data... there is no other option that fighting against the multiple features of Calibre.

Re: SumatraPDF Reader

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Is there any open source seamless PDF editor available given how pervasive is the PDF document nowadays? I really think that we need one and it has been long overdue. What I meant by seamless is that all of the open source software that currently able to edit PDF document is dong it in a clunky way at best for example Krita and LibreOffice Draw. The resulting edited output document also is also looks distinct, in a b…

Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but take a look at Stirling-PDF. https://github.com/Frooodle/Stirling-PDF
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