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Now in Poland every promotion needs to display lowest price for the product in last 30 days l, effectively countering this strategy.

That explains why Good Old Games has that display for games that are "on sale". Does Steam honor that requirement?

I haven't seen one, but changing the base price of the game requires support if I remember correctly and there is also a 30 day minimum wait time between discounts. https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/discounts

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Common market means that Apple can't charge for iCloud to Sweden more expensively (before tax) than what they charge to Spain, it doesn't mean that goods made in one country of the union can't have way different pricing in another based on shipping, VAT, taxes, labor, supply/demand, or straight up price gouging.

I'm talking about laws and enforcement of laws against anti-competitive practices like price fixing. Either enforcement is wildly different and there's a shitload of money to be made by undercutting the Austrian grocery cartel or the price fixing theory is just a socialist talking point.

but in order to do that for groceries you have to open shops in austria which makes it much more difficult compared to products that can be sold online.

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Potatos ( in or outside supermarket, large bags ) have literally doubled in price YoY in NL. I get 5kg instead of 10kg for the same price. Same month, last year.

I'm still shocked after moving to Germany how much more expensive potatoes are here than in the UK.

British loose potatoes are 70p per kg from Sainsburys. I'm sure you could get them cheaper elsewhere.

Here in Germany the absolute cheapest is like 1.40 euro per kg, much more common 2.50 (!!)

The wage is a little higher so I have adjusted somewhat, also the quality is arguably slightly better, but still...

There are only two things that are significantly cheaper in Germany than in the UK: alcohol (especially beer and wine), and tobacco

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My friends on the west coast earn around ~5-7x times what I earn as a SWE in Vienna.

But the fact people stay in Vienna means they are paying people fairly there.

most people are just not ready to move away from their home/family. and even most of those that are would only move to a country where they speak the same language. that means germany or switzerland. and there it means places where they can find a job, which tends to be the larger more expensive cities.

so despite the cost of living, it is really hard to find other cities that offer the same quality of life at less cost.

in short, moving within europe, while possible is not as easy as moving within the US. and moving outside the EU is even more difficult, so very few do it.

also, vienna has massive growth in the last decade, but i think most of those people come from places that are even worse.

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> Then we also got German and Slovenian stores. Do they mean foreign companies operating in Austria, or separate DBs/web sites for other countries? (The forks[1] don't have legible names) I'd love to see a New Zealand one, as we have a big problem right now with rising cost of living and lots of suspicion of shenanigans. [1] https://github.com/badlogic/heissepreise/forks

You are hinting towards the bigger issue here. Yes, this guy has looked through the crack in the matrix, but the fact that inflation is impacting prices all over the western world directly and elsewhere indirectly has nothing to do with pricing shenanigans of the oligopolies. These are issues that not even perfectly regulated and perfectly competitive markets could change, if that were even possible. These are system…

Violating how, by drawing breath in some sacred precinct?

Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Had a "oh shit" moment reading the article. I live in Germany, and of course buy groceries. The "discount" games seem very obvious now. Food expenses have risen very significantly recently. Great article, I hope this gains more traction and or legal ramifications for the grocers.

REWE and Edeka have trained me to only buy “fancy” (Mövenpick, Cremissimo) ice cream when it’s 1,99 EUR, not “normal” price of 3,99, and to prefer whichever is “on sale”.

And I detest that decent ice cream only comes in ridiculously-shaped thick plastic that’s only good for chucking in the Gelbe Sack, not in waxed paperboard or at least a sensible container to reuse for other things.

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Lots of comments here saying Germany is 30 percent cheaper than Austria. Isn’t living in Vienna much cheaper than living in big cities in Germany like Berlin and Munich? So overall it’s still a better deal to live in Vienna than in Munich.

Munich and Berlin (as well as Hamburg and I personally know people from Cologne that move away due to rent increasing heavily) are really expensive for German standards though. They're almost statistical outliers.

But I’m comparing the most expensive city in Germany vs Austria so it’s a fair comparison.

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Which explains why inflation in countires like Belgium, Spain, Denmark, Luxembourg are all under 2.5% as they famously don't use the Euro.

Denmark, yes, but the others use the euro.

The DKK is loosely coupled with the Euro: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark_and_the_euro

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Had a "oh shit" moment reading the article. I live in Germany, and of course buy groceries. The "discount" games seem very obvious now. Food expenses have risen very significantly recently. Great article, I hope this gains more traction and or legal ramifications for the grocers.

One trick I noticed while doing data input for supermarkets (in a different market) is that price rises are always advertised as promotions. Say a supermarket has a $1.10 item and they want to increase that product to $1.50. They'll up the price to $1.50 immediately, and add a "40c off" to the ticket. The consumer sees "promotion" and assumes it's a discount, when it's actually just the same price as usual. Then ~2 w…

This exact behaviour was used in Coles supermarkets here in Australia, to raise the price of cheese just over a month ago.

Noticed it happening at the time, and kept an eye on it.

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