Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by musicale » Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 10:11 PM UTC

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #59

musicale wrote: post #54

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So many interesting things there. Jobs and Campbell knew each other from Apple antiquity, and both Campbell and Eric Schmidt sat on Apple's board - and Jobs was already ballistic about Android vs. iPhone. On one hand I understand how Jobs would have been angry about Google trying to poach the Safari team for Chrome, but on the other I completely agree that anti-poaching schemes (as well as non-compete clauses) are ha…

> Jobs was already ballistic about Android vs. iPhone. This was 2005, well before that, which is part of what makes it interesting. I think this was about the time that Apple picked up the KDE Konqueror browser Webkit platform and reworked it. I seem to recall there being some objections to Apple fulfilling its open-source obligations by tossing a massive patch "over the wall" ... P.S. quick search result, 2003: http…

Good catch - should be "subsequently" rather than "already" since this was 2005 and the iPhone didn't come out until 2007. I can imagine Jobs being upset initially by Google trying to poach the Safari team and subsequently even more upset by Android's iPhone-like UI redesign – especially given the presence of Google execs on Apple's board.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by musicale » Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 10:22 PM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #78

musicale wrote: post #54

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So many interesting things there. Jobs and Campbell knew each other from Apple antiquity, and both Campbell and Eric Schmidt sat on Apple's board - and Jobs was already ballistic about Android vs. iPhone. On one hand I understand how Jobs would have been angry about Google trying to poach the Safari team for Chrome, but on the other I completely agree that anti-poaching schemes (as well as non-compete clauses) are ha…

> One fair solution for employees would presumably have been to deal with it head on and make competing offers up to the level of the Safari team's actual value to Apple Money does not solve all problems. Sometimes people leave companies and there is no dollar value that will get them to come back.

I don't think that makes it less important to make fair offers.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by tomaskafka » Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 9:19 AM UTC

hospitalJail wrote: post #125

classified wrote: post #109

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But then they'd also have to obliterate Microsoft, Google, and who knows what else. This won't happen.

But the user as almost full control of a M$ and google device. These are not related unless I'm misunderstanding.

Really? Good luck getting rid of Google play services, the mix of core of the operating system and location/ad tracker.