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whoops, replied to the wrong post. Watched it last night. I believe that guy truly believes. I believe the leaker is real. I believe the programs are real. I even believe they've observed phenomena/ recovered samples they can't explain. None of that is direct evidence of aliens. If the US government actually possesses meta-materials of non human origin, they will never be declassified as long as the potential to weap…
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If that's as far as you can get with it, I understand. But what if the "psyop" was you being conditioned to interpret it like that? Ha ha ha :)
And what if the psyop is you being conditioned to condition me into believing that I'm being conditioned into interpreting it like that? You can talk in circles all you like, but at the end of the day basic rationality rules. Look at the playing field, look at what's at stake, look at the current state of affairs in the world, look at who has to gain what, and it's all rather obvious. If you can't see through that th…
What irks me about all this is that it remained a "secret" quite well guarded for so long (and he characterizes as a global phenomenon, so gigantic surface area for public scrutiny/whistle-blowing)[1], but then I remember the PRISM program/Snowden revelations and I don't know what to think. Perhaps it's also valid to consider that it might be a top secret US aircraft that he judged to be of alien origin and no one in…
But it wasn't secret. The narrative has been out there for ages but covered in disinformation so you can't see it properly. The disinformation caused people to see it as ridiculous, as was intended, so they ignored previous government whistleblowers with the same story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
Despite multiple whistleblowers dating back to 1972, no one took it seriously until the Snowden leaks confirmed it without any doubt. For forty years this information remained below the surface.
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whoops, replied to the wrong post. Watched it last night. I believe that guy truly believes. I believe the leaker is real. I believe the programs are real. I even believe they've observed phenomena/ recovered samples they can't explain. None of that is direct evidence of aliens. If the US government actually possesses meta-materials of non human origin, they will never be declassified as long as the potential to weap…
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whoops, replied to the wrong post. Watched it last night. I believe that guy truly believes. I believe the leaker is real. I believe the programs are real. I even believe they've observed phenomena/ recovered samples they can't explain. None of that is direct evidence of aliens. If the US government actually possesses meta-materials of non human origin, they will never be declassified as long as the potential to weap…
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This story is bigger than Watergate by orders of magnitude, if it's true. There have been "Retired intelligence officer says he has evidence of aliens" stories floating in fringe media for decades, and all of them have turned out to be cranks. Bob Lazar has been working this beat since 1989; where's the evidence? Maybe eventually one of these times it'll all be true, but skepticism -- extreme skepticism -- should abs…
What is "extreme skepticism" other than ignorance? A real skeptic actually looks at the data and isn't content simply by ignoring it. Here, you simply imply this guy was a "crank". Maybe you should take a closer look first?
Insane, but totally believable "a[n eighty year] Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages."
How many of these crashes are there? Did these aliens fly halfway across a galaxy just to crash in our neck of the woods? Are they flying around in cheap junk? Or are they just terrible pilots? All those special vehicle morphologies and unique atomic arrangements just to crash land. Odd.
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whoops, replied to the wrong post. Watched it last night. I believe that guy truly believes. I believe the leaker is real. I believe the programs are real. I even believe they've observed phenomena/ recovered samples they can't explain. None of that is direct evidence of aliens. If the US government actually possesses meta-materials of non human origin, they will never be declassified as long as the potential to weap…
Ha ha ha! :) No, I replied the right one, you need to own your own opinion, but just go to your own limit, and remember you don't know me, so don't pretend you do, okay? Ha ha ha! Good! :)
From the things you've posted in this thread, my model of you is someone who has believed the US government to be in possession of alien craft prior to David Grusch's announcement. That is the only piece of information I implied when I said 'people like you', no pejorative connotation. People who already believed what Grusch is saying is true. Was my model of you accurate? y/n
I notice you didn't answer my question on the wrong thread that I replied to. Do you believe the theories of every researcher who has appeared on ancient aliens with equal credibility? y/n
If not, what is your criteria for which ones you believe more or less than others? If you treat every theory with equal seriousness, I would like to know your opinion on the following statement:
"The moon is made of cheese, I have proof" I have a piece of cheese from the moon. It's well toasted from it's entry through Earth's atmosphere of course, but I've had a widely respected dairy farmer examine it, and he confirmed that it is real cheese. Well toasted cheese does not simply appear in fields such as the one I found it in. The only explanation is that it was knocked off of the moon and fell to earth.
Do you believe me? why/ why not
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Also it seems like even the whistleblower does not have first-hand evidence: "Grusch also said he has not seen photos of the alleged craft himself, but has spoken extensively with other intelligence officials who have." from https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us...
Why would he have such "first hand evidence"? That makes no sense at all. Do you suppose, he could have carted one of the vehicles out the facilitie or something?