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Yes, here in Germany it's also one of the favorite platforms for extremists and not taking literal incitement to terrorism down is crazy. Also Telegram's tactic of non-compliance and operating out of Dubai and being borderline unreachable just isn't acceptable for a company with 700 million users. Companies are still subject to the law and they can go to a court if they have an objection. But this cat and mouse game…
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Durov operates from the UAE which is a strong ally of Russia (despite them spending a lot of money to convince people otherwise). It's not like he emigrated to Europe or something.
Calling the UAE a Russian ally is a massive stretch. They're not allied with the US nor Russia, they're allied with their big neighbours, Saudi Arabia, and have good relationships with many important countries (US, Russia, India, etc.) but don't follow anyone's line (outside of Saudi Arabia and it cost them dearly in Yemen, so they probably don't anymore) near-automatically. Lots of Russians in the UAE, including run…
No, it is not. Of course they look out for themselves first. However, in this time of war and international sanctions they are one of the countries who are deepening their ties with Russia.
They are spending a lot of money on PR to make it seem like they are on the side of the west, but in actual fact they have been profiting massively from Russia over the last few years.
They may not be a military ally but they are certainly an economic ally of Russia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93United_Arab_E...
> Even though Russia invaded Ukraine, business between the two countries strengthened and many Russian businessmen has flocked to Dubai to purchase properties and invest in the region. Trade between the two countries has doubled to $5 billion over the last three years and they are approximately 4,000 companies with Russian roots that are operating within the country.[8]
> According to the leaked confidential US documents,[9] titled “Russia/UAE: Intelligence Relationship Deepening”, the Russian intelligence officials were engaged in strengthening their relations with the United Arab Emirates. The document stated that Russia had convinced the Emirates “to work together against US and UK intelligence agencies”. It also concluded that the UAE viewed it as an “opportunity” to diversify its partnerships, while the US was gradually parting ways from the Emirates. However, the UAE government had dismissed the accusations that they were maintaining close ties with Russian intelligence.[10]
Good luck. They tried to block it in Russia, but it simply broke their own internet for a while and the effectiveness was spotty until they gave up. To this day I believe there is quite little cooperation between the Russian government and Telegram, despite not being E2EE by default, if we don't consider conspiracy theories, unlike all the other services used in Russia which are basically all backdoored by the state…
I'm fairly certain it is deeply connected to Russia. People believe it's encrypted but it's not for group chats or default for direct chats. They have money when Telegram is expensive to run, not to mention they can easily threaten Durov's life. The Russian network block and letting people use Telegram again was the government squeezing their biggest source of users and income until they acquiesced.
> I'm fairly certain it is deeply connected to Russia. Just as Signal, Facebook, Google, WhatsApp are deeply connected to the USA? > People believe it's encrypted but it's not for group chats or default for direct chats. The cloud and E2EE encryption of Telegram have already been audited by independent researchers. > They have money when Telegram is expensive to run They literally raised money (a billion dollars) by…
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I don't see how that context helps. To quote: > The company told the police that the groups had been deleted and that it could not recover the data. The judge's order to suspend telegram is because they did not comply, which apparently saying "that data does not exist" is not complying. If "No, we cannot give you that data" is grounds for this sort of action, that sounds an awful lot like "companies cannot delete or…
So, I wouldn't take anything they say at face value. It's not only about giving out the information they have on these individuals, it's also about shutting down other similar groups according to the court order. I'm not a free speech absolutist, I think that no platform should harbor Nazism and death threats, particularly after they have already resulted in murder. If they fundamentally cannot comply with this, then they should be banned indeed.
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That's literally the ideology of every social democratic party in Europe (and most center right as well). They are not communists, and neither is Lula.
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>> To call PT a communist organization is just another laughably stupid conspiracy theory. > There are videos of Lula saying his plan is to literally implement socialism in Brazil You know those are not the same thing right?
I know, I just don't care. To me they're both synonymous with misery, famine, rationing, forced labor under penalty of death and mass genocide when people inevitably revolt. If people are so big on banning destructive ideologies, one would think they'd start with this one. Since these communists are allowed to walk the soil of my country unimpeded and not only hold political office but have literal organized undeniab…
Doesn't bother me either way, but if you consider yourself a smart or informed person then you're doing yourself a disservice by not actually understanding any of this.
Good luck. They tried to block it in Russia, but it simply broke their own internet for a while and the effectiveness was spotty until they gave up. To this day I believe there is quite little cooperation between the Russian government and Telegram, despite not being E2EE by default, if we don't consider conspiracy theories, unlike all the other services used in Russia which are basically all backdoored by the state…
There's a law for the internet in Brazil, called Marco Civil, which literally states that ISPs can be blocked and forbidden from providing services if they don't comply with takedown requests issued by the authorities.
They were blocked quite a few times in the past 4-5 years. If I remember correctly there was a time that it was blocked for up to 2 days because they were deciding if they should pay the fine and hand over the data, or remain blocked.
I totally disagree with these rulings in favor of blocking social media apps (even though it could do us good by banning or difficulting disinformation from reaching people), but you do realize that Telegram is not the app it used to be or should be anymore, right? Pavel Durov, its CEO, is an absolute weirdo that tries to play god because he owns huge social media platforms, one of them being VK, which is heavily monitored by the Russian government.
So, if you think you are safe using Telegram, think again.
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> Last year the brazilian armed forces released a report Months after neglecting to participate in the public processes that audit the machine and its software. Would you trust they would say anything that could displease Bolsonaro? Don't you think someone would have noticed such a blatantly obvious issue in a previous session, at some point in time after the mid 1990s at least? > Biden's CIA officials told Bolsonaro…
True. Society as a whole dragged its ass on this matter. This should have been questioned a long time ago. It certainly looks bad to question things only after you lost.
Bolsonaro tried at least. During his term, I remember there was a lot of controversy because he wanted a printer added to the machines. The same supreme court judges who say the system is "unquestionable" rejected the proposal.
> Would you trust they would say anything that could displease Bolsonaro?
No. I trust the brazilian military a lot more than these openly partial judges though.
I can't just ignore what I read in the actual report. Prior to cryptographically signing the final executable that runs on the machines, the build system apparently downloads proprietary manufacturer libraries over the internet and links them. I don't remember reading anything about HTTPS or authenticity verification. As far as I know, those libraries were never audited either. Obviously, if there's malware in that code, it's game over.
That people are out there protesting over "source code" when the voting machines are actually vulnerable to a supply chain attack shows how much the public understands about this system. That lack of visibility or understanding, that alone should make it unconstitutional.
> Don't you think someone would have noticed such a blatantly obvious issue in a previous session, at some point in time after the mid 1990s at least?
> By any chance, wouldn't they be the same who helped stoke the anti-left feelings that let to a coup against Dilma Rousseff?
I don't know. I was just a kid back then, I don't remember what happened clearly. I started taking politics more seriously after Dilma got impeached. Not a coup, an impeachment. I thought the Temer administration that followed was pretty good too.
Truth is this is the first election I seriously participated in. Before Bolsonaro won, I had written off this country as an irredeemably communist state that would never recover from that mediocrity. His victory gave me hope. I criticized him a lot during his term, especially his downright stupid "mito" antics that did nothing but create enemies. I still consider him a better option than Lula though.
> Just noting here Bolsonaro named two supreme court justices, explicitly, for ideological and religious reasons. "Terribly Evangelical" were his words.
I don't deny it. Politicians being able to "name" supreme court judges is the root problem. They should be selected by rigorous testing like every other judge. Otherwise you end up with utterly absurd situations like the lawyer of the biggest organized drug trafficking gang in the nation becoming a supreme court judge. There's just no way anyone can take these "institutions" seriously. Every time I read "supreme court releases drug trafficker" in the news I can only laugh. It's a surreal feeling.