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Post by MichaelCollins »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #130
MichaelCollins wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like arguing whether chicken shit or pig shit smells worse.

That was a really bad comparison. Moderators on Reddit can be biased in different areas, they might let a comment pass or have a nervous breakdown over something they don't like. It's not clear and never will be but you still have the freedom. Facebook algorithm does not miss. It does not overlook things or understand context. All it knows is someone said something they're not supposed to and that is the difference.…

It's a good analogy because they're both terrible. You can fly under the radar on reddit or facebook by staying small or using innuendo, but why subject yourself to either? Whatever relative merit one may have vs the other is irrelevant since neither is worth using. In both cases, you are only as free as a medieval peasant; "free" to say what you like as long as the lord or his informants don't hear you.

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Post by nonbirithm »

wsb_mod2 wrote: post #137
nonbirithm wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did actually submit a link to a GitHub issue about this, but it seems to have been blocked by HN. I can see the post title when I'm logged in but as a guest it doesn't show anything at all. The post wasn't even flagged as dead. It doesn't show up in my submitted links list when logged out either. I don't know if it tripped an internal filter on HN or something. Here is the link to the post in case you're curious. h…

Showing up as a blank page for me. Fascinating. https://i.imgur.com/NzFX5Cz.png

This is what it looks like for me.

https://imgur.io/di80ueh

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Post by dahfizz »

yoz-y wrote: post #94
c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

TBH in the 90's most of forums I visited were also moderated by teenagers. If you build your community then you should be able to moderate it, as simple as that.

The internet was very different 30 years ago. What works for a niche, small community often does not scale.

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Post by freeplay »

nemothekid wrote: post #40
superkuh wrote: post #17

> So Discord can just take servers from people and give them away to corporations without asking? He never had a "server". Just like no one has a Facebook "server". Discord is a corporation not a person. Communities run by corporate services are different than servers run by human persons. You give up everything when you don't actually host your own server(s) for communicating with your community.

A Discord "server" is a colloquial term for the community space. The nitpick is meaningless, I could have an AWS "server", but at the end of the day we both know it's a virtual instance that sits on an actual server.

Unless your AWS server is a dedicated host...

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Post by SSLy »

wsb_mod2 wrote: post #137
nonbirithm wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did actually submit a link to a GitHub issue about this, but it seems to have been blocked by HN. I can see the post title when I'm logged in but as a guest it doesn't show anything at all. The post wasn't even flagged as dead. It doesn't show up in my submitted links list when logged out either. I don't know if it tripped an internal filter on HN or something. Here is the link to the post in case you're curious. h…

Showing up as a blank page for me. Fascinating. https://i.imgur.com/NzFX5Cz.png

I see a "vouch" option below the linked post, so probably someone flagged it as soon as it arrived in the queue.

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Post by linker3000 »

colpabar wrote: post #72
jstarfish wrote: post #52

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If nobody is being harmed, why not. It's unpaid management experience. Giving kids responsibilities drives maturity.

In my experience, moderation can absolutely be harmful to the moderator's own mental health, because it involves removing the posts that aren't allowed. Porn, gore, insane political ramblings... a moderator is responsible for cleaning all that up. A 13 year old should probably not be doing it. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57088382

There's also the occasional direct or thinly-veiled threats of death, doxxing, tyre slashing or public stalking for removing an off-topic post where subby knows better.

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Post by vlunkr »

datalopers wrote: post #136
c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

HN is moderated by upvotes/downvotes in a similar fashion. Hivemind floats to the top the most mundane of viewpoints. imo, we need to eliminate upvotes/downvotes and just have a single flag/report type system for vitriolic content.

Getting downvoted is not at all the same as having comments deleted, or getting banned, which is incredibly common on some subreddits.

Also not giving new users access to downvotes hopefully means that those downvoting are somewhat good citizens.

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Post by widowlark »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #81
c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

> In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances. The discourse in many subreddits is invisibly dictated by the moderators. It's not obvious when you browse posts because everything is organically coming from random people. However, moderators can entirely shape the conversation by only allowing posts that say what they want. In other words: The…

I was banned from r/streetphotography with my first post because, despite it being a street photograph, the moderator on the clock at the time thought it was 'too derivative' - It was a permanent ban.

Since then, I have taken tens of thousands of street photos, and the fact that I cannot post them on the most-used street photography subreddit is confusing and shitty.

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

In many ways HN is worse than Reddit because comments get flagged way too easily here for being unpopular or off topic. That’s what downvotes are for. It feels really gross and censored in a way Reddit never does. Bury it under downvotes fine on Reddit but it is never just flagged and removed for the tiniest reason.

I do agree with you greatly though that Reddit mods have way too much power. The /r/movies subreddit is pretty garbage because of it. I wish they had just a daily thread for people to discuss movies. They refuse any sort of thing like this and persist their perverse love affair with movie posters.

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