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If you were to pull a random cell from your body, there's a 90% chance it doesn't contain human DNA: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-...
A bit clickbait-y. Do you consider your digestive cavity a part of your body or is your body all the stuff around it?
Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’
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#142Anecdotally, I’m having one hell of a time with my 3yo and 5yo’s teeth. No juice. No soda. No bad snacks. Lots of dentist recommended foods and snacks. Full brushing and flossing regimen. Fluoride. Dentist applied special fluoride treatments. Trust me when I say we’re doing everything right. And yet they’re 3 and 5 and have had so many cavities. I asked my dad about it and he said my brothers and I had, frankly, poor…
Is it really a big deal though? Their teeth are going to be replaced anyway. If it happens in the adult teeth, then worry. Serious question -- I don't have children and it is tough to tell the difference between 'actual problem' and 'parents worry too much'.
- there's 3-5 years more time for 3yo to have these teeth. If the prognosis was long term, maybe no big deal. But cavities over _years_ can turn into far worse conditions
- these _are_ practice teeth in a way. So let's practice proper dental care now so we don't ruin the adult teeth later.
- dentist said there's an assortment of ways damaged baby teeth can harm the adult teeth
Re: Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’
#143Anecdotally, I’m having one hell of a time with my 3yo and 5yo’s teeth. No juice. No soda. No bad snacks. Lots of dentist recommended foods and snacks. Full brushing and flossing regimen. Fluoride. Dentist applied special fluoride treatments. Trust me when I say we’re doing everything right. And yet they’re 3 and 5 and have had so many cavities. I asked my dad about it and he said my brothers and I had, frankly, poor…
What are the dentist recommended foods & snacks?
Re: Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’
#144Anecdotally, I’m having one hell of a time with my 3yo and 5yo’s teeth. No juice. No soda. No bad snacks. Lots of dentist recommended foods and snacks. Full brushing and flossing regimen. Fluoride. Dentist applied special fluoride treatments. Trust me when I say we’re doing everything right. And yet they’re 3 and 5 and have had so many cavities. I asked my dad about it and he said my brothers and I had, frankly, poor…
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Face masks during Covid. Massive contribution to cavities in young children.
There's no evidence of this, of course.
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It appears that probiotic foods are beneficial in isolation, but my recent reading (no singular source) indicates that it’s far more effective when combined with a varied and high fibre diet. It seems like you can do great without the probiotics too, and only ensure you have a good quantity and diversity of high fibre foods in your diet. This seems to be the cornerstone of enriching and sustaining gut biodiversity. A…
I realize that this is a late comment, but what's your opinion of kefir (primarily homemade, not store bought) and its impact on gut health?
If it’s milk kefir, I’d say that there’s a wealth of research showing that dairy isn’t particularly beneficial to your health and my gut feeling is that you could replace milk kefir with other foods which are known to be health-promoting as well as flora-promoting and you’d be in a better place.
I’d also guess that sugar-free kefir would be ideal if you did decide to use it. Sugar seems like it quickly becomes harmful to gut flora and its diversity, so limiting it would be well aligned with the intent of building up better flora.
Overall it’s one of those things where you can ask: is it replacing something worse? i.e are you drinking kombucha which has very weak evidence of benefit, but some evidence of harm? Then it appears kefir is a good decision.
However, you can also ask if something better could take kefir’s place? This is a very individual thing. For some, they might be replacing Coca Cola with fruit juice, and if that’s the best they can manage than that’s fine - it’s still better.
If in your case it’s replacing milk with milk kefir, that’s also better. On the other hand, if you could replace milk with eating more greens for minerals, avocado for fat, and a blend of whole grains and legumes for protein, I suspect your baseline of health would increase and your gut flora would benefit more than from the kefir alone.
It’s all about “could I do something better?” because there are no silver bullets. Kefir, when added to a poor diet, will probably not provide a fraction of the benefit that simply improving the overall diet could.
Re: Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’
#147Sounds like advanced symbiosis. I wonder if the movement is across a gradient or whether the super organism has a control unit that makes decisions. Are we a result of similar microorganisms?
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> I agree, however, with your self assessment. Didn’t take long to go from glib self deprecation to judgy spectator sport. Okay holier than thou pet owner, you tell me how I’m supposed to not feed my pup kibble. She has a prescription low fat diet and there are two vendors total who supply the prescription. One supplies only kibble. The other supplies kibble and canned food. She will only eat a few bites of the canne…
The natural diet of dogs is table scraps. They’ve been eating human leftovers for thousands of years.
I’m glad my pup has medical professionals who take her well-being seriously and don’t think whether she gets to live a healthy life is up for abstract debate based on how her ancestors were domesticated.
Thanks for the discussion of how unnatural it is for my pup to be alive and healthy. I’m much more educated now.
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Do you feed your dogs kibble? It is not a natural diet. Horses likewise are typically eating a very unnatural diet, typically hay. These are both perfect examples of a analogous diet to modern human diet. The difference being that they are animals and have no ability to correct for poor dietary "choices" with proper maintenance. I agree, however, with your self assessment.
> I agree, however, with your self assessment. Didn’t take long to go from glib self deprecation to judgy spectator sport. Okay holier than thou pet owner, you tell me how I’m supposed to not feed my pup kibble. She has a prescription low fat diet and there are two vendors total who supply the prescription. One supplies only kibble. The other supplies kibble and canned food. She will only eat a few bites of the canne…
It's illogical. Your statements are also illogical and emotional.
Figure it out. Dogs can eat just about anything. Kibble is a lot of dried out garbage. Vets are great at selling you stuff and you seem to be a good customer. That's the only compliment I can afford you.
The alternative to not eating kibble is starvation? This is senseless.
I'm no busy body, in fact, I think it somewhat of an admirable trait to tell animal neglectors that they should be better to their animals. But, do feel judged if you choose to air your negligence and someone tells you, rightly, that you are in the wrong.
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> I agree, however, with your self assessment. Didn’t take long to go from glib self deprecation to judgy spectator sport. Okay holier than thou pet owner, you tell me how I’m supposed to not feed my pup kibble. She has a prescription low fat diet and there are two vendors total who supply the prescription. One supplies only kibble. The other supplies kibble and canned food. She will only eat a few bites of the canne…
It was a bad assessment and a poor comparison. It's illogical. Your statements are also illogical and emotional. Figure it out. Dogs can eat just about anything. Kibble is a lot of dried out garbage. Vets are great at selling you stuff and you seem to be a good customer. That's the only compliment I can afford you. The alternative to not eating kibble is starvation? This is senseless. I'm no busy body, in fact, I thi…
> Vets are great at selling you stuff and you seem to be a good customer.
They didn’t sell me anything. They don’t stock the food they prescribed, they named two brands that offer a diet consistent with the prescription and recommended ordering from Chewy. The only relationship they have with Chewy is to confirm the prescription so orders can be filled.
If anything, my vet has been exceedingly conscious of financial impact of vet care. They’ve not only detailed when certain tests or treatments are optional and a judgment call for me to make, but have recommended against certain options as unnecessary, only telling me of those options so I can make an informed decision.
> The alternative to not eating kibble is starvation? This is senseless.
The alternatives were either:
- ignore their medical advice and let her continue to be acutely ill with a high likelihood of chronic illness
- try the prescription diet, which the vet acknowledged may not be sufficient but said it was where we should start; it has been sufficient for nearly a year, the longest stretch of time without any illness in my pup’s three and half years
- try non-prescription options, including home cooked foods like chicken/rice/vegetables; in fact this was part of the diet transition and even chicken breast with all the visible fat trimmed off was too rich for her
- try to change her taste so she won’t eat the kibble, while watching her under-eat with no way of knowing whether or how long that will continue; even with the kibble she’s a very finicky eater and always has been, and I often have had to resort to hand feeding her so she’ll be comfortable enough to eat
> But, do feel judged if you choose to air your negligence and someone tells you, rightly, that you are in the wrong.
With the help of my vet’s care, have got my pup back to health, and kept her healthy. You’re sitting here calling me negligent because you believe I’ve been swindled by an unscrupulous vet and because you think you know better than they or I do what my pup should eat. You are in fact being a busy body. And quite ignorantly so.