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Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by chinux »

dogcomplex wrote: post #137
pavlov wrote: post #130

If they expect ordinary people to use this, the Install page could use some love: https://plasma-bigscreen.org/get/ The very first heading is "Neon based reference rootfs". It gives the impression that you must know exactly what these words mean and what you're doing, or there's no hope of ever using this thing. (The classic 1990s style Linux onboarding experience, in other words.)

I'm a programmer with a postgrad education and 10 years in the industry and I don't know what those words mean.

You would have to actually be in the KDE user community to understand this terminology. KDE Neon is the distro that KDE created. What they are trying to say that its based on their flagship Linux distro. I think they might have written that in the most new user unfriendly way they could.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

Szpadel wrote: post #132
msk-lywenn wrote: post #119

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I don't understand why people think electronics are supposed to die. Even if they do, it's often just some capacitors that died in the power supply. An easy fix!

this is about justification. The current thing works fine but I would like the new expensive thing. I cannot justify expense of replacing working thing, but if it would die, then it's justified expense. it isn't about that it's more economical purchase when it dies, but I even saw people breaking stuff just so they "had to" buy new thing that they want.

Perhaps you’ve noticed this already but having bought my last TV in 2008 I had no idea how cheap they’ve gotten! Checking Amazon right now I see a 50” 4k Samsung for $450.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by preisschild »

buildbot wrote: post #20
ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #16

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A bargain at only $2200USD

For a true commercial grade product with an actual 10bit panel? It kinda is? Plus it won’t spy on you

For that price you can get a 77in OLED tv from LG and a raspberry which you can use for Bigscreen. Might be better if your main use isn't prone to burn-in (e.g. by displaying the same UI elements over months).

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#144

Post by comboy »

sangnoir wrote: post #127
sandebert wrote: post #99

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I only realized it after reading this thread. Seems like a very confusing name chosen.

Plasma (display) TVs are mostly dead - or at least no longer mainstream. On topic: I'd love to have my TV run an open source OS that can run all the streaming apps to avoid OEMs snooping on what I'm watching

You have HDMI port, there are RPis and others, I don't think TVs are running image recognition on HDMI input (yet).

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by theodric »

sangnoir wrote: post #127
sandebert wrote: post #99

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I only realized it after reading this thread. Seems like a very confusing name chosen.

Plasma (display) TVs are mostly dead - or at least no longer mainstream. On topic: I'd love to have my TV run an open source OS that can run all the streaming apps to avoid OEMs snooping on what I'm watching

I'm pretty sure you'll only ever be able to have either an open source TV or all the streaming apps. No reason for Amazon, Netflix, YouTube, or the others to support this platform.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by mike_d »

cycomanic wrote: post #100
mike_d wrote: post #88

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A lawsuit against Vizio for GPL violation cannot compel them to open or release software from their OEMs. For example you are never going to get a functional driver for the display panel made by Panasonic. It isn't even clear that Vizio would be able to comply with GPL enforcement, since they largely just OEM TVs built by AmTran in Taiwan and don't do much more than slap a logo on it.

That's a pretty strong statement to make. It would highly depend on the contract between Vizio and their suppliers no? In particular if the lawsuit finds that anything from the supplier (like e.g. the display driver) is part of the GPL violation the contract likely contain clauses that would force the supplier to provide source code. Otherwise Vizio has grounds to sue their supplier. That's the beauty about going aft…

Suing a rebranding company is actually the dumbest move. If I buy Ford trucks wholesale and put my own logo on the grill and my own software on the entertainment system that uses GPL code in violation of the license, you can sue me until the cows come home but you are never going to get all the other software Ford has on that car.

The idea that a court could compel Vizio to provide enough source code that you could run your own OS on the TV is pure fantasy. You would need to obtain binary blobs for firmware and drivers from an original TV, and distributing them would in turn be software piracy.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by eptcyka »

comboy wrote: post #144
sangnoir wrote: post #127

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Plasma (display) TVs are mostly dead - or at least no longer mainstream. On topic: I'd love to have my TV run an open source OS that can run all the streaming apps to avoid OEMs snooping on what I'm watching

You have HDMI port, there are RPis and others, I don't think TVs are running image recognition on HDMI input (yet).

I'm pretty sure they do perceptual hashing of all displayed output.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by eptcyka »

Szpadel wrote: post #129
treve wrote: post #124

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Depending on how much it's on in a day, and the price of energy the cost of replacing it with an LCD might pay for itself.

wouldn't LCD be downgrade? i never owned plasma tv, but AFAIK biggest advantage are perfect blacks, so I guess OLED should be more natural upgrade path?

OLEDs have very good blacks, but as soon as a pixel needs to emit any light at all, it will be significantly brighter than what a regular IPS pixel can emit at it's lowest brightness.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by lrvick »

comboy wrote: post #144
sangnoir wrote: post #127

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Plasma (display) TVs are mostly dead - or at least no longer mainstream. On topic: I'd love to have my TV run an open source OS that can run all the streaming apps to avoid OEMs snooping on what I'm watching

You have HDMI port, there are RPis and others, I don't think TVs are running image recognition on HDMI input (yet).

They do, which is why you should never connect them to the internet.
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