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Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by jokethrowaway »

newaccount74 wrote: post #110
vineyardmike wrote: post #43

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This comes up a lot… The reason is that no OSS projects want a product manager. They want contributors. Most projects, if you say “I think the gui should look like X” they’ll reply with “show me the pull request then”. No one wants a manager when they’re already volunteering, and not enough people who have the skills to make things look aesthetic exist and contribute. Source: look at other comments on this article.

I think the problem is deeper than that: To do a good UI, you need multiple skills: design, development, user testing, etc. It's rare that a single person can do all of that, so you need multiple people to collaborate, which is hard, because of the lack of managers. So you only get contributions from people who can contribute on their own, which is developers.

I disagree, from my experience designers are generally not interested in OSS projects like developers are. There is one designer for 50 developers.

Probably because for developers, OSS is a badge of honour and can help your CV / find paid jobs - while for designers it's just a dribble nobody cares about.

When designers partecipate, they get to contribute and even impose (sometimes questionable, think kde4) choices.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by jokethrowaway »

bee_rider wrote: post #72
andrew_ wrote: post #34

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This. And it just kills me how so many things "linux" look so unpolished. Why is it so difficult for projects like this to find and get designers interested?

Windows is also pretty unpolished, I think it is impossible to get people to work on polishing unless you have infinity dollars, like Apple. At least Linux has the excuse that it is a community project -- things that the community decides not to work on are sort of definitionally not annoying enough to be worth working on, or they would.

Windows is polished, but their product people are terrible / constrained by someone higher up to do terrible stuff.

Apple is getting there though, probably because of the same managerial culture.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by Retr0id »

monocasa wrote: post #70
LeoPanthera wrote: post #41

The killer feature of Kodi (on most hardware, for example the Raspberry Pi) is that it can switch the output resolution to match the video you are playing. It also bypasses things like ALSA in order to be able to bit-bang audio in supported formats directly to an external receiver. These are basic functions of normal video playback devices like blu-ray players or cable boxes. A Plasma skin can't do any of this. So wh…

You don't typically don't want to switch output resolution to match the resolution of whatever your outputting on modern displays, but instead want to match the panel resolution and software scale the content. You're way too likely to confuse the monitor trying to match resolution. There's something to be said for matching frame rate, but there's even more dragons in that practically.

Truly modern TVs have much better scaling and frame interpolation than whatever your OS or media player can do.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by treve »

sergers wrote: post #113
marktolson wrote: post #104

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I'm still rocking my 12 year old plasma TV, the thing won't die!

I still have a 50" 720p Toshiba plasma, from 2006. Won't die... Been wanting to upgrade to a newer larger tv for years, but this thing keeps running along without issue...

Depending on how much it's on in a day, and the price of energy the cost of replacing it with an LCD might pay for itself.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by beebeepka »

Good. I am going to try KDE on a TV ever again. They don't seem to care, so why should I?

It's a sad state of affairs when the best GUI for a TV is Gnome 3

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

Retr0id wrote: post #123
monocasa wrote: post #70

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You don't typically don't want to switch output resolution to match the resolution of whatever your outputting on modern displays, but instead want to match the panel resolution and software scale the content. You're way too likely to confuse the monitor trying to match resolution. There's something to be said for matching frame rate, but there's even more dragons in that practically.

Truly modern TVs have much better scaling and frame interpolation than whatever your OS or media player can do.

Most people hang on to their TV for 10 years or way more than that. Expecting people to have truly modern TVs is a crapshoot. Only enthusiasts upgrade to the latest and greatest.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by sangnoir »

sandebert wrote: post #99
donatj wrote: post #87

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Yup. I wandered around page for about 20 seconds before realizing it wasn't some sort of open source hardware plasma TV.

I only realized it after reading this thread. Seems like a very confusing name chosen.

Plasma (display) TVs are mostly dead - or at least no longer mainstream.

On topic: I'd love to have my TV run an open source OS that can run all the streaming apps to avoid OEMs snooping on what I'm watching

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by LtWorf »

Retr0id wrote: post #123
monocasa wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't typically don't want to switch output resolution to match the resolution of whatever your outputting on modern displays, but instead want to match the panel resolution and software scale the content. You're way too likely to confuse the monitor trying to match resolution. There's something to be said for matching frame rate, but there's even more dragons in that practically.

Truly modern TVs have much better scaling and frame interpolation than whatever your OS or media player can do.

At the cost of seeing the lips move a little after the actor said the words :D

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by Szpadel »

treve wrote: post #124
sergers wrote: post #113

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I still have a 50" 720p Toshiba plasma, from 2006. Won't die... Been wanting to upgrade to a newer larger tv for years, but this thing keeps running along without issue...

Depending on how much it's on in a day, and the price of energy the cost of replacing it with an LCD might pay for itself.

wouldn't LCD be downgrade? i never owned plasma tv, but AFAIK biggest advantage are perfect blacks, so I guess OLED should be more natural upgrade path?

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by pavlov »

If they expect ordinary people to use this, the Install page could use some love:

https://plasma-bigscreen.org/get/

The very first heading is "Neon based reference rootfs". It gives the impression that you must know exactly what these words mean and what you're doing, or there's no hope of ever using this thing. (The classic 1990s style Linux onboarding experience, in other words.)

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