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"Would you agree that the current piracy landscape makes it much more difficult to start a new fee-based distribution model vs. a free/ad-supported distribution model?" Good question. Piracy status quo, without some sort of crackdown, already skews the "legitimate" distribution models to those that benefit companies with Google's model (e.g. for YouTube).

I'm pretty sure the internet itself favors an ad-supported distribution model. In a fee-based model, in order to make a profit, you have to limit viewing to those who pay. In an ad-based model, you make more money by getting as many people to view the content as possible. The Internet is very good at spreading content to a lot of people. It is not so good at limiting content to a select group of people.

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This is SO OFFENSIVE!!! She gives such great, clear technical answers -- they can detect child porn by a combination of reverse image search analysis and manual checks, but they can't visually tell whether a movie or song is licensed to play. Makes sense. "I'm sure we have the technology, we have the brainpower," responds some congrasshole. What fucking idiots these people are. They don't have a right to dictate term…

His response to her explanation about how they don't have the technology was "Google does have the technology". These people are all idiots.

YouTube does have automated copyright detection though

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post #142
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His response to her explanation about how they don't have the technology was "Google does have the technology". These people are all idiots.

YouTube does have automated copyright detection though

Yes, but that is different than spidering and blocking every site in the search results that hosts copyrighted content.

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#145
These hearings are nothing more than democracy theater, and I'm a bit surprised that otherwise smart people, namely most of those posting on HN, actually believe differently. The government has already shown, many times, its willingness and ability to shut down sites, unilaterally, by simply telling ICANN to redirect where a domain points. SOPA is merely a formalization of that power. I surmise that the best way to let a congressman know that you are serious about this issue is to put a bullet in the head of the congressman sitting next to him. If you aren't willing to go that far to protect your freedom, then you are just as full of hot air as the OWS crowd. I don't expect upvotes on this comment, but I am certain that all of the downvotes will come from cowards, the uniformed, idealists, or agents of the government. DNS is broken, and needs either extreme violence to protect its existing fragility, or an awesome technical improvement that will pry the government's grubby fingers off of it for good. Take your pick as to the best route, but wishing for logic and common sense at these hearings is pointless.

EDIT: I should point out the following, for those who think that there really is no need to worry. "Risk of Jail for Ordinary Users: It becomes a felony with a potential 5 year sentence to stream a copyrighted work that would cost more than $2,500 to license, even if you are a totally noncommercial user, e.g. singing a pop song on Facebook." - http://americancensorship.org A felony is a felony is a felony. Once you are guilty of one, your life changes significantly. It all comes down to which law you are willing to break. Just a couple of decades ago, murder and treason were pretty much the only serious crimes. Now, manipulate certain bits in a particular way, and it's treated as almost the same thing. Think about how much we've already lost through our passivity, and how much more we have to lose.

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

#146
post #128

This is SO OFFENSIVE!!! She gives such great, clear technical answers -- they can detect child porn by a combination of reverse image search analysis and manual checks, but they can't visually tell whether a movie or song is licensed to play. Makes sense. "I'm sure we have the technology, we have the brainpower," responds some congrasshole. What fucking idiots these people are. They don't have a right to dictate term…

His response to her explanation about how they don't have the technology was "Google does have the technology". These people are all idiots.

Maybe he meant that if you hooked up all the meth addicts in his state to a 24/7 feed of pirated movies, clockwork orange style, they'd be able to detect the pirated ones using their special paranoid powers of perception.

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

#147

This is SO OFFENSIVE!!! She gives such great, clear technical answers -- they can detect child porn by a combination of reverse image search analysis and manual checks, but they can't visually tell whether a movie or song is licensed to play. Makes sense. "I'm sure we have the technology, we have the brainpower," responds some congrasshole. What fucking idiots these people are. They don't have a right to dictate term…

This caught me off guard too. He starts with a reasonable question, gets a reasonable answer, then comes up with this "we have the technology" noise?

What's the point of getting an expert opinion if you're just going to completely disregard it?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

DNSSEC is a bad idea that will damage the Internet. I think it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

Interesting position, care to elaborate how DNSSEC is damaging the internet?

http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=tptacek+dns...

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12:19PM central time - The chairman, Rep. Smith, was asking whether this bill would impact our ability to implement DNSSEC. He seemed legitimately concerned that it could weaken security on the internet. I have no idea whether there's any basis for concern, but I'm sure we have some DNSSEC experts here on HN. Comments?

DNSSEC is a bad idea that will damage the Internet. I think it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

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Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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post #142
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His response to her explanation about how they don't have the technology was "Google does have the technology". These people are all idiots.

YouTube does have automated copyright detection though

True. But it can be gotten around by flipping the video or adding a second soundtrack. Even if it detected that, people would find ways. There's no reason that one yahoo --pun intended-- posting pirated material should be able to screw the whole company. Too much power for the yahoo. Also, un-american, as far as I've been led to believe.

Anyway, what about remixes and magazine photos and quotations longer than a paragraph?

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