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How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by xattt »

lhl wrote: post #60
jacknews wrote: post #49

The coolest thing isn't just the cpu upgrade, but that the whole mainboard is something like a standard. Other laptops have weird shaped boards just for that one model. If this 'standard' takes off it could start an entire ecosystem of modular hardware. That's exciting. I'm hoping for a 'Framework surface', a 'Framework tv', a 'Framework 400', etc.

An even cooler thing is that since the mechanicals are all published, anyone can actually make their own relatively easily, like this Framework Tablet: https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/wgzwv1/two_big_d... * https://github.com/whatthefilament/Framework-Tablet * https://www.instructables.com/Framework-Tablet-Assembly-Manu...

Let me just get the tooling set up on the dining room table, I am sure my spouse won’t mind …

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by diffeomorphism »

postalrat wrote: post #64
pdpi wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The success of the thin-and-light segment, and the MacBook Air in particular, suggests that OP is very much in the majority.

I think a lot of the macbook air's popularity comes from it being the cheapest macbook. Some people want an apple and dont have 2-3k to spend on a laptop.

The term "ultrabook" heavily disagrees with that.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by bodge5000 »

sercand wrote: post #114
ddorian43 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't game on M1 or Mac AFAIK

Lots of people just don't game at all. Also, a lot of people like me prefer different gaming and work setup (and different rooms) in order to achieve better work-life balance. I build games on my M1 machine, just don't play on it.

How is M1 for game dev? I've been thinking of getting one for my own personal laptop, but have had a few concerns, mostly just due to the issues of building software on a totally different platform to the majority of your target users (which'll be Windows, x86). I used to have some compatibility worries but I'd guess they've gone away now.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by 867-5309 »

okasaki wrote: post #140
augustl wrote: post #122

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How is 12th gen compared to 10th gen, in your experience? My XPS 13 on a 10th gen i7 just becomes absolute syrup on battery, even if I put it in high performance mode.

I have an XPS 17 with 12th gen and it drains around 50% battery per hour on a zoom call. edit: My laptop has a i7-12700H, which uses more power than the cpu in the framework laptop. More thoughts: The laptop is pretty much always plugged in. When I'm out I carry a little 60W charger with me. However for other reasons I wouldn't recommend the XPS 17. I have a Lenovo legion 7 at home that I'm more happy with (cheaper,…

the one with a 17" 4K HDR touchscreen and RTX 3000 series? they will deplete the battery far quicker than the processor

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by augustl »

okasaki wrote: post #140
augustl wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is 12th gen compared to 10th gen, in your experience? My XPS 13 on a 10th gen i7 just becomes absolute syrup on battery, even if I put it in high performance mode.

I have an XPS 17 with 12th gen and it drains around 50% battery per hour on a zoom call. edit: My laptop has a i7-12700H, which uses more power than the cpu in the framework laptop. More thoughts: The laptop is pretty much always plugged in. When I'm out I carry a little 60W charger with me. However for other reasons I wouldn't recommend the XPS 17. I have a Lenovo legion 7 at home that I'm more happy with (cheaper,…

Thanks for the real-world numbers! This is good for my emotional state, as I've switched from Windows to a MB Pro solely because of the battery life and performance of the M1 Pro chip.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by diffeomorphism »

abudabi123 wrote: post #113
chx wrote: post #68

I so badly wish these things had TrackPoints :( the patents have expired...

The IBM Keyboard Trackpoint has evolutionary paths towards being a tiny trackball while retracted down, the trackball locks and pops up a functional joystick. The problem with the Trackpoint is it feels superslow, superheavy on the fingertip compared with glidetouch trackpads.

>The problem with the Trackpoint is it feels superslow, superheavy on the fingertip compared

That is just wrong. You only say that you don't like the default sensitivity/speed. Increase it a bit and you get the complete opposite.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by sercand »

bodge5000 wrote: post #146
sercand wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of people just don't game at all. Also, a lot of people like me prefer different gaming and work setup (and different rooms) in order to achieve better work-life balance. I build games on my M1 machine, just don't play on it.

How is M1 for game dev? I've been thinking of getting one for my own personal laptop, but have had a few concerns, mostly just due to the issues of building software on a totally different platform to the majority of your target users (which'll be Windows, x86). I used to have some compatibility worries but I'd guess they've gone away now.

If you are using a game engine like Unity you should not worry at all. If you need to access Windows specific APIs, of course it is a different story. A Macbook is a perfect machine for developers: you can build for android and iOS, has a great screen, perfect touchpad, finally fixed keyboard and ports.
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