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Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by FpUser »

varispeed wrote: post #126
danuker wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coming from Russia doesn't mean you agree with government policy. If you saw people get arrested as soon as they start protesting, what would you do?

This is a stupid argument. Ukrainians are being killed and you compare that to fear of being arrested? It's a nice excuse. "Oh yes I don't support my government, but you know these arrests, I'd rather stay in my cosy home and enjoy my tea. Now could you please lift the sanctions? I already said I don't support my government, why normal people like me should suffer?" etc etc

>""Oh yes I don't support my government, but you know these arrests, I'd rather stay in my cosy home and enjoy my tea."

Why are you so surprised? This is exactly how most of the population behaves everywhere. People go about their business and "support" criminal actions of their governments all the time. This includes the West. Our governments have no problems exterminating, starving and displacing people (as long as they're the "right" people to mess with) while the majority of the population is going on merrily about their business. And Europe keeps buying Russian stuff even now while "Ukrainians are being killed". Where are the mass protests and fights with the police?

Things might change when "messing" with people will ALWAYS have the consequences for ANY country. But this is not what is happening and is unlikely to change. We have no extra terrestrial entity to police us in impartial way.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by f6v »

toyg wrote: post #45
f6v wrote: post #8

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The achievements aren’t in any way tainted by their nationality, citizenship, sex, sexual orientation, age, etc.

Well... I'm sorry if I reach for the reductio at Hitlerum, but any achievements Nazi scientists might have reached in concentration camps are definitely tainted. Similarly, achievements in the field of online consumer analysis in a country where consumer-privacy protections are nonexistent, surely should be considered tainted...?

> consumer-privacy protections are nonexistent

And you can back this up how?

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by lotusmars »

trhway wrote: post #64
Thorentis wrote: post #19

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Doesn't mean you can't be punished for the actions of the government though. See: Western companies and government pulling out of Russia or issuing sanctions on private individuals. I think it's even worse to say "we don't think you're guilty, but we do think you should be punished."

> Western companies and government pulling out of Russia you can't really blame the companies for not wanting to be associated in any way with a nazist regime genociding a neighboring country. And Starbucks or Mercedes pulling out of Russia isn't punishment. It is freedom of association and economic activity. Russians are whining about "punishment" because they have no idea about freedom, and that is them getting a b…

It was hilarious when people from Moscow wrote "they took away our ability to buy Chanel bags, so much for European tolerance!"

Not even seeing the irony. What did they expect in response to bombing, pillaging, mass rape? Friendly hug?

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by lotusmars »

FpUser wrote: post #141
varispeed wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a stupid argument. Ukrainians are being killed and you compare that to fear of being arrested? It's a nice excuse. "Oh yes I don't support my government, but you know these arrests, I'd rather stay in my cosy home and enjoy my tea. Now could you please lift the sanctions? I already said I don't support my government, why normal people like me should suffer?" etc etc

>""Oh yes I don't support my government, but you know these arrests, I'd rather stay in my cosy home and enjoy my tea." Why are you so surprised? This is exactly how most of the population behaves everywhere. People go about their business and "support" criminal actions of their governments all the time. This includes the West. Our governments have no problems exterminating, starving and displacing people (as long as…

> Our governments have no problems exterminating, starving and displacing people

It's high time to bring "but US bombed Iraq". Classic playbook.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by lotusmars »

zeofig wrote: post #146
lotusmars wrote: post #143

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Well you can have it in the West. We'd prefer something separate from Kremlin.

We can have what, a great search engine? Maybe if you have a time machine to 2003

Just take it to America from us, thank you. Along with VK. Great search engine and a social network. Full of backdoors for thugs and corrupt police, censorship and other lovely stuff... but you'll probably say that Google is full of it too, because you had no experience of living in Russia.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by oleg_antonyan »

varispeed wrote: post #126
danuker wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coming from Russia doesn't mean you agree with government policy. If you saw people get arrested as soon as they start protesting, what would you do?

This is a stupid argument. Ukrainians are being killed and you compare that to fear of being arrested? It's a nice excuse. "Oh yes I don't support my government, but you know these arrests, I'd rather stay in my cosy home and enjoy my tea. Now could you please lift the sanctions? I already said I don't support my government, why normal people like me should suffer?" etc etc

Yeah, by being arrested you're doing so much more for the Ukrainians

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by dav_Oz »

alexb_ wrote: post #13

I have to wonder if 10 years down the line, everyone will be able to run models like this on their own computers. Have to wonder what the knock-on effects of that will be, especially if the models improve drastically. With so much of our social lives being moved online, if we have the easy ability to create fake lives of fake people one has to wonder what's real and what isn't. Maybe the dead internet theory will rea…

The bots/machine vs human reminds me of that famous experiment from the 30s in which Winthrop Kellogg[0], a comparative psychologist, and his wife decided to raise their human baby (Donald) simultaneously with a chimpanzee baby (Gua) in an effort to "humanize the ape". It was set out to last 5 years but was relatively quickly abrupted after only 9 months. The explicit reason wasn't stated only that it successfully proved the hereditary limits within the "nature vs nurture" debate of a chimpanzee, the reticent statement reads as follows:

>Gua, treated as a human child, behaved like a human child except when the structure of her body and brain prevented her. This being shown, the experiment was discontinued

There have been a lot of speculation as to other reasons of ending the experiment so prematurely. Maybe exhaustion. One thing which seemed to dawn on the parents - if one reads carefully - is that a human baby is far superior at imitating than the chimpanzee baby, frighteningly so, that they decided to abort the experiment early on in order to prevent any irreversible damage in the development to their human child which at that point had become far more similar to the chimpanzee than the chimpanzee to the human.

So, I would rephrase "the internet is dead" into "the internet becomes increasingly undead" because humans condition themselves in a far more accelerated way to behave like bots than bots are potentially able to do. From the wrong side this could be seen as progress when in fact it's opposite progress. It sure feels like that way for a lot of of people and is a crucial reciprocal element often overlooked/underplayed (mostly in a benign effort to reduce unnecessary complexities) when analyzing human behaviour in interactions with the environment.

[0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winthrop_Kellogg#The_Ape_and...

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