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Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by zeven7 »

throwaway1777 wrote: post #137
fritigern wrote: post #53

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> we're in a country with better privacy laws Speaking as a European: I think this is a very important topic for us. I don't think Americans and American companies understand how little trust rest of us have for the American government. Working with a company that is not subject to the whims of the American government is a huge privacy win. If a company pitches me a product, they start 1 points ahead if they are base…

Between the joke of an energy policy in Germany this year and Douglas Murray’s books I have no confidence in European governments either. I used to feel Europe’s system was more competent but the illusion has been shattered.

To add to that now every other website has an annoying and useless cookie dialog I have to dismiss, as if that's forward progress in privacy protection.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by meribold »

xigoi wrote: post #100
_fat_santa wrote: post #60

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I have a question about system fonts. Whenever I declare system fonts I always use: `serif`, `sans-serif`, or `monospaced` rather than the actual fonts like: ``` font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, avenir next, avenir, segoe ui, helvetica neue, helvetica, Cantarell, Ubuntu, roboto, noto, arial, sans-serif; ``` Am I doing it wrong by declaring it just like `font-family: sans-serif`?

No, it's a matter of preference. The default fonts in some browsers are pretty ugly, so if you want at least a chance of getting a better font, you can use a stack like this. But it's fine if you don't.

> The default fonts in some browsers are pretty ugly

Is this really the case anymore these days? I think Firefox uses Courier New on Windows as the default monospaced font, but other than that I'm not aware of popular browsers using terrible fonts by default.

A nice aspect of using just serif or sans-serif is that users who configured their browser's font options get what they chose.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

misslibby wrote: post #113
fritigern wrote: post #53

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> we're in a country with better privacy laws Speaking as a European: I think this is a very important topic for us. I don't think Americans and American companies understand how little trust rest of us have for the American government. Working with a company that is not subject to the whims of the American government is a huge privacy win. If a company pitches me a product, they start 1 points ahead if they are base…

I'm a European and I have very little trust in European governments. Not much trust in the US government, either.

Yep, and also the whole EU... Every few months, they either want to make encrpytion illegal, scan more private data, scan files on end user devices, outright ban e2e encryption, or worse.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

judge2020 wrote: post #74
itake wrote: post #73

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My understanding of privacy international privacy stuff is if a European gov wants to spy on their own citizens, but the law prevents them, they phone up the USA and have the USA do the spying(hacking?) and get the data from them. European countries do the same for USA gov on US citizens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes?wprov=sfti1 In the US at least, any spying is illegal when both parties are within the US and the packets never leave the US.

Yep, that's why they "coincidentally" do a traffic stop, and find stuff "by accident".

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by josefx »

encoderer wrote: post #69
fritigern wrote: post #53

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> we're in a country with better privacy laws Speaking as a European: I think this is a very important topic for us. I don't think Americans and American companies understand how little trust rest of us have for the American government. Working with a company that is not subject to the whims of the American government is a huge privacy win. If a company pitches me a product, they start 1 points ahead if they are base…

Surely you realize that if a modern sophisticated government wants to see your data, they are going to be able to access it, even if it’s stored in the Netherlands? What threat are you protecting yourself against?

If the government wants to go after you in specific? You might be screwed. If the government wants to identify "criminals/degenerates" by checking against sexualPreference="gay", semitic="yes", numAbortions > 0. Then you at least wont turn up because that would require a lot more effort.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by jen20 »

blooalien wrote: post #127
misslibby wrote: post #113

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I'm a European and I have very little trust in European governments. Not much trust in the US government, either.

I'm an American and I have next to zero trust for governments in general. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" and humanity has given too few entirely too much "absolute power". I feel much the same about most of the massive corporate entities as well.

The difference is Europe is better at restricting corporate overreach than the US is, regardless of how similar their governments have become. That said, I'd take almost any European government over any US government of my entire lifetime, especially when it comes to actually enacting privacy legislation.

I couldn't care less about web fonts though. I'm not downloading them from Google or "bunny.net" or anywhere else. My computer has some of the nicest-looking fonts around as system defaults, and websites can either work with that or get put into reader mode.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by chrismorgan »

hsjdbdksjsj wrote: post #46
hannob wrote: post #31

I find it really strange where some privacy debates have gone wrong, and this is a perfect example. It's basically a form of "don't trust them, better trust us, also we're in a country with better privacy laws". Which is an imperfect solution at best, and given that I have no idea who bunny.net is it's a questionable one at best. If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now…

you won't believe this, but as the end user you can solve this in your life once and for all, and also improve your life! something rare for online annoyances nowadays. any decent browser, i mostly use firefox, have a checkbox in the font screen that prevents sites from changing the page font. i set all sites to user Ubuntu Mono. always. all the time. everywhere. the only downside are sites that use winding-like font…

Icon fonts that use the Private Use Area code points do still work when you just instruct the browser to not let pages override your choices. This is the way almost all icon fonts work. In the last few months I think I’ve observed only three fonts not doing so; DuckDuckGo is one, the second was some small business’s site using a style from many years ago, and the third is Google’s Material Icons font, distressingly widely used, which uses a ligation technique the implications of which really weren’t thought through properly. (It was supposed to improve accessibility in case of the font not loading, but in practice it makes it disastrously bad much more often, as can be seen on a number of Google properties, like their docs sites and Google Translate which are both significantly mangled by it.)

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by kube-system »

eivarv wrote: post #139
kube-system wrote: post #128

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Unless you're under a totalitarian government, spies aren't really interested in most people's data. Data brokers, on the other hand, are willing to sell anything they can profit from.

Yet bulk data collection (in effect "mass surveillance") happens, and poses a risk in and of itself to data subjects.

You can't use the internet without risk. All you can do is measure relative risks and decide which are acceptable. Means, motive, and opportunity matter. Someone who is missing the motive portion is less of a concern than someone who has all three.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Post by fritigern »

encoderer wrote: post #69
fritigern wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we're in a country with better privacy laws Speaking as a European: I think this is a very important topic for us. I don't think Americans and American companies understand how little trust rest of us have for the American government. Working with a company that is not subject to the whims of the American government is a huge privacy win. If a company pitches me a product, they start 1 points ahead if they are base…

Surely you realize that if a modern sophisticated government wants to see your data, they are going to be able to access it, even if it’s stored in the Netherlands? What threat are you protecting yourself against?

No reason to make it easy for them.

Also, proper client side encryption is really difficult to break. Usually they need to compromise the client in order to read it.

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