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Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

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Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

#51

This is a great project, but I learned to use a system font stack[0] instead to address latency issues on my sites. I run an e-commerce site and every millisecond in rendering time is potentially a lost sale. It needs to be fast, especially for those on 3G (or 2G?) connections. [0] https://systemfontstack.com/

This is my preferred solution too. It’s really not necessary to use custom fonts to achieve a nice design in most cases.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

#52
post #31

I find it really strange where some privacy debates have gone wrong, and this is a perfect example. It's basically a form of "don't trust them, better trust us, also we're in a country with better privacy laws". Which is an imperfect solution at best, and given that I have no idea who bunny.net is it's a questionable one at best. If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now…

you won't believe this, but as the end user you can solve this in your life once and for all, and also improve your life! something rare for online annoyances nowadays. any decent browser, i mostly use firefox, have a checkbox in the font screen that prevents sites from changing the page font. i set all sites to user Ubuntu Mono. always. all the time. everywhere. the only downside are sites that use winding-like font…

Oh, that'd probably work really well with dyslexic style "easier reading" fonts too.

eg: https://opendyslexic.org / https://github.com/antijingoist/opendyslexic

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

#53
post #31

I find it really strange where some privacy debates have gone wrong, and this is a perfect example. It's basically a form of "don't trust them, better trust us, also we're in a country with better privacy laws". Which is an imperfect solution at best, and given that I have no idea who bunny.net is it's a questionable one at best. If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now…

> we're in a country with better privacy laws

Speaking as a European: I think this is a very important topic for us. I don't think Americans and American companies understand how little trust rest of us have for the American government. Working with a company that is not subject to the whims of the American government is a huge privacy win. If a company pitches me a product, they start 1 points ahead if they are based on Switzerland, Netherlands or somewhere similar.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

#54
post #31

I find it really strange where some privacy debates have gone wrong, and this is a perfect example. It's basically a form of "don't trust them, better trust us, also we're in a country with better privacy laws". Which is an imperfect solution at best, and given that I have no idea who bunny.net is it's a questionable one at best. If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now…

you won't believe this, but as the end user you can solve this in your life once and for all, and also improve your life! something rare for online annoyances nowadays. any decent browser, i mostly use firefox, have a checkbox in the font screen that prevents sites from changing the page font. i set all sites to user Ubuntu Mono. always. all the time. everywhere. the only downside are sites that use winding-like font…

Upside: Consistency. Downside: Consistency.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

#56
post #31

I find it really strange where some privacy debates have gone wrong, and this is a perfect example. It's basically a form of "don't trust them, better trust us, also we're in a country with better privacy laws". Which is an imperfect solution at best, and given that I have no idea who bunny.net is it's a questionable one at best. If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now…

you won't believe this, but as the end user you can solve this in your life once and for all, and also improve your life! something rare for online annoyances nowadays. any decent browser, i mostly use firefox, have a checkbox in the font screen that prevents sites from changing the page font. i set all sites to user Ubuntu Mono. always. all the time. everywhere. the only downside are sites that use winding-like font…

Alternatively people can use uBlock Origin and simply block all remote web fonts. It'll break some sites which use fonts to replace icons, but the add-on can easily be disabled for those specific sites.

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Won’t that cause the fonts to download again if they were loaded by Google fonts? I thought the reason to use something like Google fonts was to have the fonts download only once.

That hasn’t worked for a while. Browsers will NOT use cached resources loaded for foo.com when loading bar.com, even if they are the same resource from the same CDN.

Can you provide a link to support / verify this?

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

#59
post #31

I find it really strange where some privacy debates have gone wrong, and this is a perfect example. It's basically a form of "don't trust them, better trust us, also we're in a country with better privacy laws". Which is an imperfect solution at best, and given that I have no idea who bunny.net is it's a questionable one at best. If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now…

> If you embed a font hosted somewhere else you expose some of your user data to them. Now with fonts there's a really simple solution: Just don't. As an added bonus, hosting fonts on your own server is faster as it goes through the same HTTP connection.

I never quite understood the debate around fonts. You could use the CSS/Link import that Google provides, but that's never the optimal solution. Like you I always download the fonts and use them directly via @font-face.

The only advantage I see to using Google Fonts / some privacy respecting font service like this one, is when you are first prototyping an app and want to either test fonts, or want to move quickly and not worry about setting up fonts properly. We also used in a places like Storybook where having correctly set fonts is not as important.

But even if you did use it in prototyping, it's best practice to pull down those fonts and store them locally before going to production (at least in my mind).

Am I missing something?

Re: Bunny fonts – privacy respecting drop-in replacement for Google Fonts

#60

This is a great project, but I learned to use a system font stack[0] instead to address latency issues on my sites. I run an e-commerce site and every millisecond in rendering time is potentially a lost sale. It needs to be fast, especially for those on 3G (or 2G?) connections. [0] https://systemfontstack.com/

I have a question about system fonts. Whenever I declare system fonts I always use: `serif`, `sans-serif`, or `monospaced` rather than the actual fonts like:

```

font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, avenir next, avenir, segoe ui, helvetica neue, helvetica, Cantarell, Ubuntu, roboto, noto, arial, sans-serif;

```

Am I doing it wrong by declaring it just like `font-family: sans-serif`?

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