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Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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Men were so much better dressed back then.

to be fair it's most likely rich people pictured, I would love to see same spy photos from village, I would bet my money people would not be wearing such fancy suits and hats as these urbanites

[1] is a video from a couple decades later (1914) that shows more of the urban middle or lower class folks of Kristiania (it wouldn't be called Oslo until 1925).

[1] https://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/5d19ec53f24eb5909b9316a833b90c38....

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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A lot of our common conceptions of the past are flat out wrong. Often deliberate fabrications for political ends. Why wouldn't fathers, in general, be affectionate? The Bible (to take a very old book) if full of fatherly affection. Take the story of Abraham and his son to be sacrificed. The story has always been shocking because the reader knows the son was so wanted and loved and empathizes. Even the prejudice isn't…

It is definitely culture. While Norway is Protestant it long been very progressive. It is the first country establishing government watchdog for protecting children’s rights. Britain is kind of infamous for strict child raising and because of the dominance of British in history they color our perception of the past. I have several family members who lived in Britain for years back in the day. They all describe the tr…

> family members who lived in Britain for years back in the day. They all describe the treatment of children in ways what would horrify Norwegians

In which case, you *must* read Roald Dahl's autobiography 'Boy' (and the follow up, 'Going Solo'). He moved from Norway as a child into the English public school system, and a treatment that horrified his parents.

Incidentally, the biographies are aimed at children but very cleverly written to appeal to adults. For example, he describes a school teacher (in the 1920's) who would occasionally jump and twitch in class, making startled noises. The children found out he had something called "shell shock" and decided that this meant a shell must have exploded so close to him that he jumped so high he hadn't stopped jumping........ Interesting and funny to read as a child, but this works on another level when you read it as an adult.

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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It’s great. I also love video footage from that era as well, capturing the ordinary bustle of the streets. It’s fun when it’s local and you can point to familiar places. One of my favourites is Victoria and Vancouver BC around 1900[0]. [0] https://youtu.be/Jp1qWV5OZec

Here’s one from 1895, upscaled to 4k60 and colourized: https://youtu.be/EqbOhqXHL7E

These are horrible.

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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Here’s one from 1895, upscaled to 4k60 and colourized: https://youtu.be/EqbOhqXHL7E

Much better ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ1OgQL9_Cw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo_eZuOTBNc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQs5VxNPhzk

I really hate these types of videos that ruin a perfectly good video and fill it with AI-generated fake frames and colors. Colorization especially is not something that an AI can do well yet. It generally turns it into a rainbowy mess of constantly shifting colors.

Also even the framerate is often wrong as these old movies didn't have consistent framerates. They were hand cranked so the framerate varied quite a bit.

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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As nothing in particular I wish braces were acceptable! They make so much more sense than tightening a belt laterally to defy gravity by friction.

Huh, I didn't know that suspenders were called braces in England/Australia. I thought you meant dental braces, and was pretty confused at first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspenders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_braces

> I didn't know that suspenders were called braces in England/Australia.

This has been the source of some comic misunderstandings, whereby an American bloke says they are/like wearing suspenders, and the listener then assumes they are coming out as transvestite.

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Would be fun to film the same route today, and show them side by side.

There's a side-by-side video of the Wuppertal "flying train" from 1902 and 2015 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7TqqdOcX4dc

Every single tree lining that road in 1902 gone and not replaced by 2015.

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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Huh, I didn't know that suspenders were called braces in England/Australia. I thought you meant dental braces, and was pretty confused at first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspenders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_braces

> I didn't know that suspenders were called braces in England/Australia. This has been the source of some comic misunderstandings, whereby an American bloke says they are/like wearing suspenders, and the listener then assumes they are coming out as transvestite.

Monty Python's lumberjack is I suppose about as comic in 'braces and a bra' as in 'suspenders and a bra'!

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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to be fair it's most likely rich people pictured, I would love to see same spy photos from village, I would bet my money people would not be wearing such fancy suits and hats as these urbanites

[1] is a video from a couple decades later (1914) that shows more of the urban middle or lower class folks of Kristiania (it wouldn't be called Oslo until 1925). [1] https://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/5d19ec53f24eb5909b9316a833b90c38....

Thanks for sharing that. One thing in common, there certainly were a lot more hats!

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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It’s great. I also love video footage from that era as well, capturing the ordinary bustle of the streets. It’s fun when it’s local and you can point to familiar places. One of my favourites is Victoria and Vancouver BC around 1900[0]. [0] https://youtu.be/Jp1qWV5OZec

Given how quiet the roads and pavements are in the video and photos does anyone know why the streets were built so wide?

Delivery wagons might be drawn with a team of two or even four horses (or even bullocks). You'd want to be able to turn them around in such streets. Certainly that was the case for Australian country town main streets laid down in the 1800s
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