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Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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As a balding man with a round head I wish hats other than Baseball caps were acceptable.

As nothing in particular I wish braces were acceptable! They make so much more sense than tightening a belt laterally to defy gravity by friction.

Huh, I didn't know that suspenders were called braces in England/Australia. I thought you meant dental braces, and was pretty confused at first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspenders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_braces

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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It’s great. I also love video footage from that era as well, capturing the ordinary bustle of the streets. It’s fun when it’s local and you can point to familiar places. One of my favourites is Victoria and Vancouver BC around 1900[0]. [0] https://youtu.be/Jp1qWV5OZec

Would be fun to film the same route today, and show them side by side.

Here's a landmark:

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.425502,-123.3676965,3a,21.3y...

https://youtu.be/Jp1qWV5OZec?t=94

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The last photo of the man being affectionate with his young daughter is surprising to me. All my life, I've thought that men born before 1950, like my father, just didn't do that sort of thing. And yet here is a man born a hundred years earlier doing just that.

A lot of our common conceptions of the past are flat out wrong. Often deliberate fabrications for political ends.

Why wouldn't fathers, in general, be affectionate? The Bible (to take a very old book) if full of fatherly affection. Take the story of Abraham and his son to be sacrificed. The story has always been shocking because the reader knows the son was so wanted and loved and empathizes.

Even the prejudice isn't universal. Italians don't have this conception of cold fathers 100 years ago.

Could it be a protestant thing? Possibly except the Norwegians in this set are themselves Protestants.

I would chalk up the image of a cold, distant father, to the generational shock of 31 years of slaughter in Europe (1914-1945). Some blame Bismarck and his quest to make perfect soldiers through universal education (and the export of the Prussian model).

But, really, the past is not as bad as it is depicted. Life was tougher, but there was love, laughter, loyalty, beauty, and friendship. I suspect more so than today.

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Comment deleted because a guy can't state a feeling without dealing with endless pedantry. Gosh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890s#Wars The 1890s were a rare break in great power conflict, but they were only a few decades after the civil war, Imperialism was in full swing, and there were still plenty of wars. In general, there has not been a more peaceful time than the present.

Rare break for the West you mean? While the West was breaking, instigating, looting, murdering people in rest of the world like business as usual?

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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Great find. Thanks for posting. I love it when photos from this era occasionally emerge showing people acting naturally. We're so used to seeing the vast majority of Victorian photographs showing dour-faced people sitting or standing stiffly to attention, that it's sometimes difficult to believe they had human emotions, just like us.

Properly exposing the plate—or whatever—took several seconds, and it's way easier to look dour for five seconds than to hold a rictus grin.

Source: Among other things, I've sat for a tintype portrait before. https://twitter.com/aaronbrethorst/photo

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There are notes/photos on/of the camera in the previous discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16049954

Worth linking directly, there are over 150 photos at the old link: https://www.boredpanda.com/spy-camera-secret-street-photogra...

Ok, we've switched to that from https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photograp... above. Thanks!

Re: Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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Somewhat unrelated question that I could probably Google, but I figured it's more interesting to hear your take.

Why do people on old pictures look like they're from a completely different era? They look like they're from the 1800s. Is it the camera, the clothing or did they actually look slightly different from us? Or perhaps it's just an illusion?

Realistically I wouldn't expect humans' appearance to change that much in 100 years?

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Somewhat unrelated question that I could probably Google, but I figured it's more interesting to hear your take. Why do people on old pictures look like they're from a completely different era? They look like they're from the 1800s. Is it the camera, the clothing or did they actually look slightly different from us? Or perhaps it's just an illusion? Realistically I wouldn't expect humans' appearance to change that mu…

Could be modern lenses, filters, and/or touchups (i.e. photoshop) that distort images in a (typically) flattering way and distort some people's perception of "normal" photographs, since it's all pretty ubiquitous. Cell phones apply all sorts of processing effects, starting with the lense.
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