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By that logic insurers could deny claims related to obesity, or risky sexual behavior. Would you approve of that?
It is not possible to spread obesity or risky sexual behavior to others.
Isn’t that the argument?
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Completely reasonable to destroy someone's livelihood while they may not be at much risk of dying from the said disease?
Because, we are not even talking about preventing transmission at this point, in case you have not noticed. Vaccines only provide personal protection.
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>We were promised this wouldn't happen by our governments last year right? We were promised that a company can't require a vaccine as a condition of employment? Seeing as some companies have required vaccines for as long as there have been vaccines, I think I must be misunderstanding you. >Why are private companies stuck policing these absurd policies? Companies are requiring the vaccine because they make employees l…
> Companies are requiring the vaccine because they make employees less likely to miss work due to illness. Then if I don't want to get a vaccine, I'll sign an agreement that if I get sick and miss work, I don't get paid, and that's the end of it.
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1. Force people into draconian measures that won't stop infection and violate their rights. 2. Convince them that it's necessary to stop the pandemic without giving any arguments. 3. Have them defend your measures in public forums and feel very smart.
> violate their rights Can you talk us through exactly which rights you think are being violated?
I recall the left has been very vocal about "my body my right" when it came to some different kind of issue.
Funny that the standards don't hold very much.
At some point I wonder if health insurers will start denying claims related to the treatment of COVID infections if the person is eligible for the vaccine but has refused to get one? On TV today I saw that Kroger employees don't get sick day pay if they are off because of COVID unless they have been vaccinated (and I would assume there's a medical exemption).
By that logic insurers could deny claims related to obesity, or risky sexual behavior. Would you approve of that?
I have never seen a person trying hard to get vaccinated with available vaccines all around them unable to do so. I have seen people attempt to lose weight. The fact that it’s big business is a testament to this.
Sexual behavior, well yea there is careless behavior but also deceit. How would you tell the difference?
With vaccines, the end goal is to get people to get the vaccine so they can live their normal lives. There is no one time simple action someone can take to prevent obesity. There is no vaccine for all stds I’m aware of.
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I assume he means the right to not have a substance injected into your body if you don't want it.
Google aren't forcing you to get an injection. They just won't employ you if you don't. That's not a violation of any rights. Google also won't employ you if you turn up to your interview with very bad breath. That's not a violation of a right to not clean your teeth. You're seriously confused about what a 'right' is.
There is no medical secret anymore? Being vaccinated or not should be, and remain, a private decision - with your doctor as a counterpart. Your employer has nothing to do in it.
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> draconian measures really? What's the fuzz about anti vaxxers always talking about "won't stop infection" or "stop the pandemic" - 1st this is not black and white - 2nd and nowhere I have seen that these are the actual arguments for these measures?
> "won't stop infection" or "stop the pandemic" - 1st this is not black and white Seriously. Mitigating the damage from failure to contain and eradicate the virus when we had the chance (in the precious few early weeks where lockdowns had that potential, but guess what, the same people f'd that up) involves filter after filter after filter. Each filter reduces spread and severity by some amount. Masks reduce (but don…
We have enough data by now, worldwide, to clearly say that lockdowns were completely bullshit and ineffective. There is virtually no correlation with viral spread and lockdown status.
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It's capitulation to coercion, which has its own side effects.
You're talking about employment where the employer makes much much of off your labor than you will ever receive, and you are powerless to demand your fair share. Yet instead, a safe workplace is the coercive part? If you don't want to be coerced, you had better not be an employee with wages. Go out there and start your own business.