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Re: Leaving Mozilla

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post #128

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>We need to stop normalizing working beyond a 40 hour work week. I can accomplish far more and with greater clarity of purpose, mental acuity and motivation in an actual 40 hours, than I could if I attempt to push myself to 10-12 hours a day. But normalizing any number is problematic. It depends on the job, and the specific individual. A warehouse packer or a burger flipper are unlikely to accomplish more by working…

> So lets say each person can be productive for X hours per week. I don't think productivity is the right way to frame things. This makes it sound like a human is nothing more than a tool. The reason people should work fewer hours is so that they can enjoy life outside of work, remain healthy, spend time with family and friends, etc. Not to maximize productivity for the stockholders. Even if some person is capable of…

Well, I cannot judge what is good for you, and neither can you for me. Its an individual choice, not something that is forced upon. The point is, 40 hours/week is a completely arbitrary number. I enjoy working extra hours, it allows me to work on multiple projects simultaneously that I otherwise couldn't do in an 8 hour day.

If Michael Jordan wasn't such a workaholic would he still have become 'The' Michael Jordan. No data, but I find it unlikely. (No, I'm not comparing myself to Jordan)

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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> The window into the internet shouldn’t be controlled by big companies. It’s a principle thing for me. That's exactly why I stopped with Mozilla. They are just a proxy for corporate controlled interests. And it is heartbreaking. Every single battle, they have folded. Nearly every decision they have made has aligned with corporate interests. And then they issue a paternalistic statement saying that selling out is in…

> They embraced EME web DRM. They did not. They fought against it until it was clear they weren't going to win the fight. > They didn't have to. They could have taken the position that if someone wants DRM they should do it via Flash or Silverlight, or some other external means. That is not a reasonable position. Adobe was already in the process of killing Flash and Microsoft is the developer of Silverlight, and they…

> They did not. They fought against it until it was clear they weren't going to win the fight.

What a losing attitude. Nobody forced them to do anything. They chose it.

I would argue that Firefox is what held back DRM from becoming more common. Even if 20% of users were not supported, that was significant. Even if it was inevitable, they should have done the right thing and refused to directly support DRM at all. It's not like there was any economic pressure on them. The whole point of non profit organizations is that they can afford to be principled. That was their one job. And instead they stabbed us in the back, over some hypothetical userbase that didn't exist.

> It would not, it would have killed them overnight. 99% of the population doesn't give a shit, they just want to watch Netflix (etc.), and they'd stop using Firefox the day Netflix (etc.) stopped working. That's true even of most Linux users which is the only population that might would care whatsoever.

That is your problem. You are hyperfocused on people who don't care what browser they use, and just want to watch TV. That is a terrible strategy.

You will never ever win those people over. Ever.

I don't think it is worth ruining everything that makes you special just to be popular.

I'm so glad they didn't try to out Microsoft Microsoft in 2006.

They are completely ceding to these corporations and letting them make the rules. How can any headway be made like that?

> XUL extensions were horrifically insecure and often caused terrible memory leaks that got blamed on Firefox - they also prevented proper sandboxing and multiprocess functionality from being implemented.

The lost functionality from removing XUL has not been restored. Firefox remains less useful than it was.

Blamed? Why are you so concerned about branding?? What world are you living in?

And again, on a macro level, the UX is worse now because it is less functional. Am I supposed to care that Tree Style Tabs is gone, but at least it performs better? That's not an upgrade. Instead, effort should have been diverted to improving the existing model.

There was a lot of room for compromise that they didn't use.

> Although your defense of Flash and Silverlight leads me to believe you don't care much about security.

No, I have using sandboxing in one form or another for over a decade. Are you? Maybe Mozilla should have focused on making sandboxing more accessible.

It isn't exactly hard on Linux.

> You're delusional if you think that anything good would come of that. If that's how you feel, why wait? Go build something now.

https://www.palemoon.org/

Proud supporter. It actually has a future.

Defund Mozilla.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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To me, using Firefox on desktop is easy. It is at least on par with competitors, if not better. Firefox on Android on the other hand (the one the author worked on), IMHO, is simply an inferior product. This is kinda understandable due to their small team size (and it looks like they're overworking too), but what I didn't get is why they kept revamping it. I don't have a clear timeline, but in my recent memory they at…

One of the features I think is unmatched in other browsers is Firefox's ability to search open tabs on your other devices, and also to almost instantly send a tab to another device. I mainly use it from mobile to desktop (when I stumble on a site that I feel may be risky to let it run all scripts on a mobile phone).

That is a very useful feature! FYI both Chrome and Safari have their own implementation of that, though it requires using the vendor's login system (Gmail; iCloud).

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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> the constant stream of negative comments from unhappy and rude users during the work week and outside of it was extremely draining This is because mozilla is an open source aberration. The actual developers are super humans, but they are being led by people with the wrong incentives. This is what cause "rude emails from users ". the opposite would have gotten you a nice balance of polite and rude patches/reports fr…

No. Abusers are responsible for their abuse. This is non-negotiable. The people on the Internet chose to be abusive. That's their fault. That is never anyone else's fault, period.

> the opposite would have gotten you a nice balance of polite and rude

You are transferring some or all of the responsibility of "choose not to be rude to strangers on the Internet" onto the recipient, who received rudeness only once others had already made that choice. How dare you say that we can blame the recipient of abuse for the choices of others to be abusive. You have no right.

If you choose to be rude to someone else on the Internet, you alone are fully responsible, without regard for any extenuating circumstances whatsoever. If you are having a medical event, seek in-reality medical attention and prepare an apology when your medical treatment has progressed far enough. If you didn't mean to be abusive, apologize, and then demonstrate over time that you're becoming less accidentally abusive. If you thought that the shield of anonymity on Twitter would protect you from being caught, you're no different than someone who throws bricks into people's windshields on the highway. No circumstance whatsoever sets aside your personal responsibility for the words you produced on the Internet.

It doesn't matter what they did, what their employer did, what their software did. It doesn't matter if they could be perceived as being abusive to you. None of that matters at all. There is absolutely no room for blame-sharing or blame-transfer here. There are no excuses for choosing to be abusive in this way. You simply cannot transfer one iota of responsibility here. That decision terminates at you, and you alone.

ps. I don't know if you're abusive or not, and I honestly don't care. This isn't about you, whoever you are. This is about your attempt to transfer the responsibility for abuse in part or in full from the abusers to the recipient of their abuse. That attempt, and my detailed refutal, is the sole focus of my comment. The English word "generic individual target within a plural set" is, unhappily, "you". Some confusion may occur, and I don't have the English skills to mitigate that at this time. No doubt someone will chime in with a better way to phrase this. I endorse whatever corrections are necessary to resolve the tense difficulty here.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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To me, using Firefox on desktop is easy. It is at least on par with competitors, if not better. Firefox on Android on the other hand (the one the author worked on), IMHO, is simply an inferior product. This is kinda understandable due to their small team size (and it looks like they're overworking too), but what I didn't get is why they kept revamping it. I don't have a clear timeline, but in my recent memory they at…

I wanted to make Firefox my default Android browser, out of principle. After 6 weeks, I uninstalled it and am back in Brave. The Firefox address/omni bar seemed designed to lean 90% toward a search engine search, even if I had completely typed in the hostname of a previously visited page and hit "Enter". The cynic in me guessed this was deliberate to reap referral commissions from Big Search Engine. Pissed off, unins…

I agree with you that the defaults are annoying. With the latest Firefox on Android they simplified almost everything, but the address bar still has a staggering 9 options in settings! Personally I turned off all options except autocomplete urls, search history and search bookmarks. Now it works like I expect, again.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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I hope Emily can learn to separate work from not-work, and set those boundaries early in any new role. It's not healthy to work all the time, and we all need our own time.

I'm sure you didn't intend it but your comment comes off as a bit condescending (a good litmus test for that is checking how a comment like this would read if the author was an older, more experienced man). Setting appropriate work-life boundaries is a common issue now in the covid WFH era and something people at all levels are struggling with. I've found uninstalling Slack on my phone to be helpful in enforcing this.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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So it's more like she directed her frustrations at the users ("haters") instead of the other way around?

No, that's her reaction _after_ a bunch of non-contributors whined that the project team was making different decisions than they wanted. This is a common hazard of visibly working in open source and it's caused a lot of people to decide it's not worth being involved in a project.

As somebody who participated in an open-source project, I know the feeling. Whatever you decide at any decision point, there would be people that would loudly claim only an idiot could do something so obviously stupid. It's tough and sometimes exhausting and discouraging. But I never seen a single case where publicly flipping off people and calling them "haters" and proclaiming you do not care for their concerns (however badly expressed) helped anything. Even as a joke, it's not a kind of joke that usually plays out well.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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This woman seems not sincere at all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Emily has a name, and I don't see how you've come to that conclusion. Her account of living resonates with a lot of my reflections when I left my previous job. Perhaps you haven't yet been lucky enough to have a job that has been similarly fulfilling.

People like this insincere behavior and I respect it. I just don't like it.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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I'm on a personal quest to reduce the average American working week

idk if you're a millenial but I often think that this will be millenials' legacy - a 32 hour work week would be amazing

I am, just by a couple of years!

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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I still use Firefox. I’m sticking around. It’s becoming more annoying to use, but I’d rather support Mozilla than anyone else. The window into the internet shouldn’t be controlled by big companies. It’s a principle thing for me. To the author, thanks for your efforts.

To me, using Firefox on desktop is easy. It is at least on par with competitors, if not better. Firefox on Android on the other hand (the one the author worked on), IMHO, is simply an inferior product. This is kinda understandable due to their small team size (and it looks like they're overworking too), but what I didn't get is why they kept revamping it. I don't have a clear timeline, but in my recent memory they at…

> "oh for that, just use beta/nightly version!"

Like for accessing abou:config sigh

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