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Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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I read a comment/tweet somewhere akin to, "if you run a foreign intelligence agency and did not have agents inside during this, you should be fired."

Sounds like a good way to blow your cover. Much better to play it cool and get hired into the target agencies/offices directly.

I there ever was a time to blow your cover for a literal smash-n-grab, you'd be hard pressed to find a better one.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Well TIL that there is a Russian ethnicity. But I will add that colloquially no one says that.

Ignorance is not an excuse. In mainstream American discourse being Russian is a crime.

> Ignorance is not an excuse.

Taking it that you aren't trolling (which I'm not certain you aren't) ignorance is an excuse. It is not a good excuse when knowledge is common but it is a great excuse when knowledge is uncommon (as is the case here, at least to Americans). Unless you expect everyone to be omniscient then this is exceedingly disingenuous and will just lead to people thinking you're being a jerk.

The other part I need to add is that this is also how we typically talk. "The British...", "The Irish...", "Americans...", etc. I'll admit that we could have more nuance and better communication by being more specific but what is stated here follows the Cooperative Principle[0][1]. It is implied in all these examples that what is meant is the government of the country and not the people of the country. Typically we'd say interpreting it as the latter would be in bad faith. Not that people don't do this (and that this isn't becoming more common) but that this is how people typically use language.

But if you're trying to just get people to yell at one another and feel angry (i.e. trolling) I'd ask that you please take your comments elsewhere because that's not the environment we are trying to create at Hacker News.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle

[1] https://youtu.be/IJEaMtNN_dM?t=137

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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Well, this language isn't useful, a Russian friend of mine, who is quite modern, not a fan of Putin or anything, said she'd prefer Trump to win, because Biden said "Russians are our enemy" (not sure if Biden actually said that, and even if he said "Russian government", the media could've edited "government" out of that quote).

So because someone heard something else said to someone else, I have to change what I say? [confusion]

Unless you're Joe Biden, you don't... but if he or his admin wants to not alienate the ordinary Russian people, he should emphasize "Russian government" or Putin and make sure the media notices what he's saying.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

#145

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You are a propaganda victim. He never intended to cripple the US, he simply lacks enough power to do it. Why would he want it, anyway? It's a county where his children will likely live (like children of most Soviet leaders since Stalin), his assets are stored in US currency, too. I guess he is quite happy with people like you believing in his overinflated image of a powerful adversary to the US, but in reality he's j…

That’s why the Russian government hacked into a vast amount of US computer networks. No ill intentions there.

What do you think the NSA and CIA do on a daily basis if not hack computer networks around the world, friends and adversaries alike?

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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There is a distinction https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossiyane

Well TIL that there is a Russian ethnicity. But I will add that colloquially no one says that.

It's pretty well known, ignorance is not an excuse really.

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

#147

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That’s why the Russian government hacked into a vast amount of US computer networks. No ill intentions there.

What do you think the NSA and CIA do on a daily basis if not hack computer networks around the world, friends and adversaries alike?

I’d say that’s whataboutism and irrelevant to the discussion on whether Russia is an adversary to the US.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

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The Venn diagram of terrorists and domestic abusers is a circle, or near enough as makes no difference.

That ... doesn't seem quite right, no.

Pretty much every Islamic terror attack in Australia (which is a small sample, I know) involves domestic abuse as a pre-cursor, for example. The links between misogyny and Islamic extremist groups are pretty well-documented.

Given the degree to which research suggests that a similar current exists in right-wing extremism in the US[1], it's not a reach.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/01/what-motivates-the-m...

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

#149

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Well TIL that there is a Russian ethnicity. But I will add that colloquially no one says that.

It's pretty well known, ignorance is not an excuse really.

because ignorance is a bliss

Re: Woman may have tried to sell Pelosi computer device to Russians, FBI says

#150

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Well TIL that there is a Russian ethnicity. But I will add that colloquially no one says that.

It's pretty well known, ignorance is not an excuse really.

I'll refer you to my other comment[0]. But no, Russian being an ethnicity is not common knowledge. At least in America.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25828088

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